Help Identifying this Boat

Discussion in 'Motorsailers' started by Boston, Oct 3, 2010.

  1. panorth
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    panorth New Member


    If anyone is interested in some of the history of this boat I remember it very well. For many years it was stored and kept by Fred Dion Yacht Yard in Salem Massachusetts. I lived next door for about 10 years (1983-1994). It was often one of the last to come out of inside storage for the season's launching. The mahogany brightwork was simply beautiful. I often thought the design was laid out to accomodate a full time captain that would man the upper helm and therefore was often separate from the owner/passengers that were likely to be comfortably ensconced in the aft cockpit, possibly with an awning overhead on a warm day.

    Later it was moved up to Manchester where it was also very well kept. I'm somewhat facinated that it is listed as being in East Boothbay now. I've spent a lot of time around some of the East Boothbay yards and have not spotted it yet. I will have to look closer this year. When I kept tabs on this boat it was one of the best kept boats around.
  2. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    ya I think Westy nailed it
    I guess its up for sale or probably already sold

    I gotta wonder if its a sharpie hull or not
  3. Angélique
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

    Not with that L/B, draft, displacement, ergo the whole hull form...

    Just got a closer look at her... She's got your name on her body Bos :D


    Yes West nailed it but also everything Tad said in post#5 about measurements and era from that tiny little picture is spot on..!! Bravo to Both...!!!

    She is still for sale and very much advertised. If the price drops she is in real danger that someone buys her who can't afford to maintain and preserve her as she deserves..

  4. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    Ive noticed that seems to be the big fear when I was looking for a home for the Haida, a lot of yards wanted a premium for housing a wood boat. Most also wanted a premium for yard space to work on it. It looked cheaper to buy a piece of land and haul the boat to it than rent at the yard. A lot cheaper. I think they probably saw a lot of wood boats these days going dirt cheap and some unsavory characters buying them up thinking what a deal and then realizing the costs involved, ends in shafting the yard for storage fees and a boat thats so far gone its really not possible to bring it back other than use it for parts on a complete rebuild. = Money and lots of it.
  5. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    It does kinda have my name on it though

    thing is I'd use it
    which is kinda he opposite of conservation
  6. Angélique
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

    If you use the boat she will not always be in show condition. But it is no obstacle to maintain and conserve her.

    But then the price ;)

  7. peter radclyffe
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    peter radclyffe Senior Member

    sell up. buy it and go to sea
  8. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    Dan most marinas now have to deal with rotten hulks, of formerly wonderful wooden yachts. These boats statistically cause the most trouble for the yard. They leak, they list, they stink, they sink. Most of these things force the marina to do something. Leaks, if substantial, have to be dealt with, usually a preventive pump is placed aboard. This has to be monitored just in case it gets worse. A list usually requires a marina worker go aboard and find out what's going on, smells the same thing and a that boat that has dropped a lot more then it's boot under the water needs immediate attention. All these things have no guarantee that they'll get paid for and most importantly make the yard or marina look like a resting place for derelicts.

    As a result many marinas are not accepting older wooden boats if any at all, which lowers insurance rates and the amount of maintenance they'll need to preform. This is a trend that has been going on for many years now.
  9. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    We'll see how I do this summer and what kind of cash I have handy then. Maybe I'll be in another buying mood, who knows. Speaking of which I just got a hysterical certificate from the building dep so I can begin my next project. One of the oldest homes in Boulder, should take pretty much all summer to restore all the trim, windows, floors, and stairways. That and I've got a few other pans in the fire as well. Could just be my year, there's no telling. But even so one good year does not a boat owner make. For a boat like this one I'd pretty much need bottomless pockets

  10. sandyp
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    sandyp New Member


    The name of this boat is Norstar, it is a 50 ft motorsailer built in 1951 in Stockholm Sweden by boat designer Knud Reimers.
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