glycerophtalic paint

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  1. urisvan
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    i want to paint the interior of my boat. i made a research in internet and semigloss acrylic latex paint seemed like a good material to me...
    but i am in Tunisia now and what i can find around here is this "glycerophtalic" paint. there are brilliant and mat versions.. i dont know what it is. seemed like an classical oil paint to me. should i use it or not?

    regards
    Ulas
     
  2. Mr Efficiency
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    I have never heard of it, what is the thinning agent for it ? In the confines of a boat, I would first be concerned about odour both in application and while it cures. Most paints take weeks to cure properly, and sickly odours are not what you want if living aboard. Low VOC (volatile organic compounds) paints are available, and whilst the durability is, from what I have seen, questionable in some cases, interior painting is less problematic, and demanding of the integrity of a paint film, than outside in the weather.
     
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  3. Blueknarr
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    30 years as an industrial painter and this is the first I heard of it.
    Reviewed a few articles. Name comes from French term for leaded oil based paint. Makes sense in Tunisia. If It is still leaded, it would not be my first or even twenty+first choice.
     
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    In his area, this alkyd is likely an imported French product.
     
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    A little old lady once told me that paint smells can be neutralised by slicing up some onions, spread on plates. Never tried it, but it may be a case the paint smell is just masked by the onion smell !
     
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    Baking soda works, though getting rid of mineral spirits smell is a challenge.
     
  7. urisvan
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    i dont want to do the same job again , it is even more difficult to sand down the paint again if the result is bad.
    i will check the thinning agent of it and ask you again so we can give a desicion
    i am not living in the boat at the moment so smell is not a problem.
    i want a stable paint which is easy to clean and dont come off easily

    Regards
    Ulas
     
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    Oil based paint with lead? If it has lead in it; no way would I consider using it inside the boat.

    Oil based paint is horrible to apply indoors; worse inside a small enclosed hull space.

    Find an alternative if possible. Oil based paint has its place; it is excellent on wood substrates for exterior applications where tannins are problematic. It has no place inside a boat if you ask me. If you can find no alternative; make sure the boat is very clean inside when you paint so you can run fans; you'll need fresh air moving into the area.
     
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    Paint the inside of a cardboard box. Place it in the boat and wait to see what happens. Easy test for suitability.
     
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    What in the world do you expect as an outcome? The cardboard to get wet in an assumed damperish location and a resultant adhesion failure? I think you ought to expound on the statement for the idiot in me.
     
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    I was focusing on the smell. If it was a lingering noxious smell you toss the box and don't use that in the cabin. I doubt there would be any adhesive problems if the surface is clean and dry. You would have adhesion problems with any paint if you apply it to damp surface.
     
  12. PAR
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    The thinner for this paint is mineral spirits (white spirits) or turpentine.
     
  13. urisvan
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    hi
    Par, this glycoropthalic alykid paint uses mineral sprits as thinner. it seems like a normal oil paint to me. yes it is french product. it doesnt say on the container but it may have lead inside.

    But i found another paint and its thinner is turpentine. Do you recommend me to use this one inside the cabin?

    Or, i found wall paint. in the describtion, it says acrylic and latex. but it also says it is a mat paint(as i know latex is semi gloss). i dont know the quality, it is in a plastic container. what do you think? Do you prefer this one?

    Regards
    Ulas
     
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    Latex can have different shines, from gloss to flat. I like waterborne paints for the interiors (not in the bilges). The type made for bathrooms is steam resistant and has a mildewcide.
     

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    Turpentine can be purchased in a low odor synthetic.

    I actually find turpentine odors pleasant and would think it would be not as bad as other solvents, but still use caution and vent confined spaces well with fans.
     
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