Global Warming? are humans to blame?

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Do you believe

  1. Global Warming is occuring as a direct result of Human Activity.

    106 vote(s)
    51.7%
  2. IF Gloabal Warming is occurring it is as a result of Non-Human or Natural Processes.

    99 vote(s)
    48.3%
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  1. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    actually a guy named Guao Maqueo came along a few years ago and blew away the physics world when he resolved the field equations without the cosmological constant by redefining light theory
    the error he discovered explained the problems justifying relativity with quantum mechanics

    the physics world was turned on its ears and its far from settled as to if the speed of light is a constant or not at this point

    Wiki is not always your best source

    climate change is due to a radical change in atmospheric chemistry largely brought about by the burning of fossil fuels
     
  2. hoytedow
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    I always wondered what would happen if you were travelling at the speed of light and turned on a flashlight. Would the light from the flashlight travel at 2x speed of light?
     
  3. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    no but you then bump into a theory called causality by a guy named Kurt Godel
     
  4. hoytedow
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    If you were travelling on a light beam and stepped off, how long would be the skid mark?
     
  5. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    long enough to see the planet wrecked by Rapid Global Climate Shift which wouldn't be long now
     
  6. Pericles
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    You truly are a plank Boston. ;) Drawing your line anywhere and calling it a trend line, just as you did, means nothing. It does not deliver the reality of global temperatures. The line serves only to delude you.

    Draw another line from start point in 1979 to end of February 2011, those are the start to finish points; using spline & ducks. That's the temperature gradient between then and now. Everything shown above that gradient is delusion. It was warmer, now it's colder. There is no trend. It was cold in 1979 and it's cold at the start of 2011 and it's going to continue to get colder. Your delusions about CO2 are all over the place, like a mad woman's ordure.

    I have belatedly caught on another thread about your failure to purchase Haida Princess, which you seem to attribute to bad faith. If the personal cheque you signed was returned to you then the money was not banked. I am intrigued as to why you did did not pay the deposit (or the full amount if that is what the cheque was for) using plastic. I reserve everything that way and credit cards indemnify against theft in any case. The seller has to have the money in the bank for you to have legal title.

    Take a gander at these. Some look current.

    http://yachtbroker.escapeartist.com/boats/action/view/boat/1519/index.html

    http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/192...0553/North-San-Francisco-Bay/CA/United-States

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-b5CQA225U

    http://www.planetyacht.com/detail.php?id=2244
     
  7. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    that lake union dream boat is in deplorable condition these days, the last owner used it as a floating apartment and did no maintenance whatsoever. It might not even be safe to hoist it out of the water and its bleeding rust all over itself. I think the price is down to 10,000 or best offer these days.

    I might consider it for parts but its a total rebuild at this point
    thanks anyway though

    and ya hind sight might have shown better ways to purchase the Haida but I was trying to be cautious and ended up getting screwed.

    as far as the temp graph and some rather interesting logic as to how to draw a trend line you might want to study how trends are calculated and get back to us on that one

    if your interested in trend analysis this graph shows several types, linear and moving/polynomial
    as you can see both are an average and neither start at the low or end at the high, they begin "at the beginning" with an average average and end "at the end" with an average, which means that the linear trend I estimated is a pretty good average IE same number of data points below it as above.

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  8. hoytedow
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    Still BS; Barbara Streisand.
     
  9. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    only BS I'm seeing is cherry picking years as well as highs and lows in order to try and fool people into thinking temps are doing something other than skyrocketing
     
  10. Pericles
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    No, no, no, Boston, you see you are still being hoist by your own petard. The trend is unimportant. For example, it's what you have left in the kitty that matters, when you finally stumble out of the casino. You might have been winning at some stage and that was time to pick up your winnings and walk. Instead you tried to beat the house odds and you lost. It was cold in 1979 when you placed your wad on the table and for a while, you were up, because of a natural warming cycle. Now the temperatures are still falling in 2011 and you are skint. It really is that simple.

    Your belief in false gods has brought you down. I am not surprised, because we sceptics kept faith with the real science, not the politically correct, watermelonish, post normal, jiggery pokery you subscribe to. You are in Denver according to your tag, where right now it's brass monkey weather. Doesn't that tell you anything? You are like the man who fell off a skyscraper and was heard to muttering to himself half way down; "So far, so good". It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the bottom. :D:D

    So, keep endeavouring to persevere. The colder weather over the next 30 years should be a clue, but the joke's on you at the moment, sport. Better luck next time.

    Now, back to boats. Here are two great threads. One is in German, but the pictures tell the story They should inspire you.

    http://www.craftacraft.com/great_wooden_home_build

    This second link details the resurrection of a beautiful Chris-Craft Express Cruiser.

    http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?112986-1950-CC-Cruiser-Restoration
     
  11. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    Yikes thats some pretty insane logic you are trying to run up the ole pole, I'd say lets just take a look at that graph "you" presented again and let the readers decide

    OK here's that last you posted with both the support and resistance lines in place, there is a clear rise in both the low temp average and the high temp average. I don't think your efforts to fool the readers is working Pery

    you might notice I threw out the high and the low just as any good analysis following the scientific method will do


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  12. Pericles
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    Boston,

    I wrote 1970 to 2011 and you have the unmitigated gall to suggest I wrote "high of last year and the low of this year". Now you have confirmed to me that are nought but a bigoted, deceitful weasel. The rest of your spiel I have no interest in commenting upon. No wonder you think you were cheated over Haida Princess. It's really about who you are and you got what you deserved.

    I guess the owners read your posts here and figured you are a no good communist louse. Well, up yours for the rent buddy. You are on my ignore list and I strongly suspect that for you, there will be many more disappointments just over the horizon. You are bad luck incarnate and I pity anyone who becomes involved with you. You are no longer in my favour.
     
  13. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    wow
    I think we can safely label that a tantrum
    even bordering on sociopathic or maybe idiopathic its hard to know from a safe distance
    didn't have anything to do with being called out as a oil and gas industry shill did it :p:p:p:p:p:p

    yes you can take the low of 79 and the low of 2011 and it will still be cherry picking, clearly you do not understand the science of climate change, try the average of 79 and the average of 2011 and all the averages in between and then maybe you will begin to understand.

    as far as what happened with the Haida its up to the courts to decide if it was illegal or not the way it came down. I might be wrong I might be right but it seems pretty fishy to me, so its best to just bring it to the attention of the authorities and let them decide. If they find a scam in all that then so be it if not then so be it also. I'm out a thousand or so but lesson learned, as Tad said, Never trust a broker. Who knows maybe I'll at least recover my losses eh

    thanks for wishing me luck
    love
    B
     
  14. hoytedow
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    So, are humans responsible for global warming?
     

  15. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    oh please
    the whole concept of relativity is that light speed is "relative" to the observer. Your flash light would act as it always has regardless of your or its condition. Although ole Joao discovered that its speed is "relative" to the energy density of the universe.
     
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