Global Warming? are humans to blame?

That's from Lincoln's Lyceaum Address, when he was 28 years old. It was inspired by an incident where a mob burned a black man to death, for apparently being a murderer. The speech was lamenting disregard for authority and the courts, and people taking the law into their own hands. He continued, "there is, even now, something of ill-omen, amongst us. I mean the increasing disregard for law which pervades the country; the growing disposition to substitute the wild and furious passions, in lieu of the sober judgment of Courts; and the worse than savage mobs, for the executive ministers of justice."

He was sounding a warning about mob rule, and its threat to the rule of law and our system of government -- not warning us that government is the threat. Talk about taking things out of context.....

Here's the whole speech: http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/speeches/lyceum.htm

edit: Lincoln called the speech, "The Perpetuation of Our Political Institutions."

 

I'm certainly not advocating mob rule. I'm an 'individualist' thru and thru!
He was warning that citizens inside the United States, could destroy what the founders had established, by not respecting and preserving the founding principles and rule of law.
That applies MOST IMPORTANTLY to preserving the Constitution. Every president, government office holder, legislator, justice, military man, swears to do that!

 

The Perpetuation of Our Political Institutions

Without the following, we have no institutions

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charters_of_Freedom

My view is the institution/s of our government are to preserve our freedoms.
If the institions survive in some modified or corrupted form, but the freedom they were to protect is gone?

Isn't that a little like saying "The surgery was a success, but the patient died!" ?

 

What freedoms do you think the government has taken from us, or is threatening to take?

 

his freedom to believe in butterflies and zebras, moonbeams and fairy-tales

of course ;-)

 

It is funny how people are skipping down the road to serfdom, without a care in the world and totally oblivious to the fate which awaits them and us.

 

You and others who believe in catastrophic warming, keep saying I don't have the right to NOT reduce CO2 and pay carbon taxes and comply with any other ecology program you dream up and want to enforce.

am I justifiably worried about erosion of our freedoms? Damn Strait!

And someting more dangerous and unconstitutional
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/disposition.html

 

One of the main purposes of government is to protect us from each other. I'd say that legitimately includes protecting us from people who want to screw up the water we drink, the food we eat and the air we breathe.

Seems to me that if God's the one who handed out rights and freedom he was pretty stingy about it, mostly just giving them to Americans. Wonder what He has against the rest of His children?

The Devil can quote scripture... I'm not impressed.

I'm a little fuzzy on this whole 'take our country back' bit, anyway. The last time I checked, it was still in the hands of Americans who were voted in by their fellow citizens.

So who are you going to 'take the country back' from? The voters who chose Barack Obama for President, because John McCain was so senile he picked Sarah Palin as a running mate?

The independent voters who actually elect most of our politicians, after the Democrats and Republicans each go through the ritual of voting for their own side?

Throw me a line here, I'm drowning.

And by the way, I started out planning to vote for McCain, until I realized his judgment had seriously slipped since 2000.

My wife Cindy is somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun on most issues, and our votes normally cancel out. This time around I was saddened (and worried) by McCain's choice, but Cindy was furious: "does he really think I'm going to vote for him just because he picked some bimbo in a skirt for a running mate? How stupid does he think women are?!?"

 

I also voted for Obama in 2008. He made inspiring promises he didn't keep, so 2012, I'll either vote FOR Ron Paul if he's on the ballot, or, AGAINST Obama, for whoever runs against him.

I'm registered independent!

I see Obama doing exactly the same things Bush did, who did exactly the same things Clinton did, ect.

The Washington Country Club, THAT's who I want to take our country back from!

 

That's it? You're upset because the government may interfere with your imaginary right to produce as much CO2 as you want? If that's the biggest problem you have you're s****ing in tall cotton, son.

And you're also upset because Presidents issue executive orders? OMG.....

Guess what: the President is an Executive. He's in charge of the Executive Branch of government. When he issues an executive order, he's doing the job we elected him for and pay him to do.

By the way, Barack Obama has signed an average of thirty executive orders a year. Saint Ronnie signed almost 50 a year -- even more than Clinton did. And he's the guy conservatives worship in the name of Limited Government....

 

I object to the government creating kneejerk laws in a panic. Especially object if it's because some hysterical people say we don't have time to wait untill we know more facts. I would VERY much object to any executive order, based on global warming alarmist agendas.

FDR signed over 3700 executive orders and with proclamations, totaled 5000+. George Washington signed a couple.
Mostly, their intent is directing the offices in the executive branch.
They are NOT suppose to repeal the Constitution. Take a look at some Obama executive orders. Look at some of Clintons power grab orders. And Bush too. I'm not going to post them here. Just I'm worried. Check them out.
Dangerous ground.

The presidents job is to execute the will of the people as expressed by congress. Not to rule by edict! Making law is the business and power of the congress, not the president. Read the Constitution.

 

I don't like any of the above, but I guess I would vote for Ron Paul if he had a chance to win. Apart from that I guess that Mitt Romney is it, anybody that can win against Obama.

The United States will not be recognizable in four years if Obama is reelected. Obama is not only trying to run the US like autocracy but he is also giving away our sovereignty to the UN.

 

It also appears to me that he is, bit by bit.

 

The difference is that you don't believe in climate change so you decide government has no right to act and you paint scientists as all biased when it comes to air/atmosphere no matter what the science may or may not say. You've decided that in the instance of atmosphere you don't want anything to change what you do no matter what, even though in cases of water or other things the government does protect one person from other people.

 

Did you watch Great Global Warming Swindle?