Global Warming? are humans to blame?

I don't see the proof. CO2 is not an evil, gas it is part of a natural process, just like nitrogen and water vapor. One goes up the others go down and the earth adjusts. Ultimately if the earth temperature goes up 1 degree or down, that is just part of how the earth works. The CO2 breaks down by many means.

Predictions are guesses, and 20 or 30 years is just too small of a model.

 

CO2 has been a known greenhouse gas since about the mid 1800's, its not like the idea is revolutionary or anything, so add another 30% of it to the atmosphere and josh darn it all, why do things tend to heat up. Big mystery there eh.

the part about how the earth works is interesting though, cause its the rate of change that makes all the difference in the world. Go's up to fast and its mass extinction time. As you say, its just how the earth works.

 

moved from doomsday boat.

there were no last guys fudging models ( maybe you could point out who exactly you are referring to ) , other than maybe the deniers cherry picking data sets or dates.

and your man Friedman isn't a climate scientist, he's an economist, maybe if he'd been one of the bigger players in climate science I'd have read further, but degrading climate science with the economics of denial simply isn't a viable argument. At least not in my book against the actual science, which is extremely sound.

Cheers
B

 

A THEORY CURRENTLY UNSUPPORTED BY NON-RISING TEMPERATURE!

You are ignoring the realities of burning 90 million barrels of oil a day along with about 14 million tons of hard coal ( again per day ) and trillions of CU ft of natural gas/methane. and for every gallon of fuel burned the combustion process creates about 21 lbs of CO2 gas.

A mere spit in the ocean of air.


We've been over the sun did it ploy,

And you did not successfully refute it. All of your links are old. One doesn't work, 2 are duplicates, and all just say , No it's not the sun. One says there IS no increase in the sun iradience by the same PMOD data I posted showing a .1 % increase. So which one is lying? My source is the Imperial College of UK, not a blog like yours. http://astro.ic.ac.uk/research/solar-irradiance-variation

 

Boston, look at all these and get back to us.

http://www.schnittshow.com/pages/globalwarming.html

 

AL GORE ALREADY OPENED HIS MOUTH IN FLORIDA WHEN HE LOST HIS BID TO BE PRESIDENT, BEFORE the GW LYING FILM OF HIS. HE'S A NO CLASS LIAR! RICHARD "TRICK DICK" NIXON HAD MORE CLASS AND INTEGRITY THAN GORE!

 

I was confused when I read this . I looked up at the page number, I thought I had accidentally selected page one of the thread.

 

Alright! Which of you cut the cheeze, and claimed CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas? You all know how sensitive Boston is, how quick he rallys to knock over that strawman!

Uh! Oh yeah! A STRAWMAN is a non-issue the refuter raises himself so he can knock it over again.

I remember now. Sorry folks.

 

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=17fad0e2-6f6b-41f3-bdd8-8e9eeb015777&k=0

"Having a crash would certainly allow us to pin down the sun's true level of influence on the Earth's climate," concludes Dr. Weiss of Cambridge. Then we will be able to act on fact, rather than from fear.

"The deeper the crash, the longer it will last," Dr. Weiss explains. In the 17th century, sunspots almost completely disappeared for 70 years. That was the coldest interval of the Little Ice Age, when New York Harbour froze, allowing walkers to journey from Manhattan to Staten Island, and when Viking colonies abandoned Greenland, a once verdant land that became tundra. Also in the Little Ice Age, Finland lost one-third of its population, Iceland half.

The previous cooling period lasted 150 years while a minor crash at the beginning of the 19th century was accompanied by a cooling period that lasted only 30 years.

In contrast, when the sun is very active, such as the period we're now in, the Earth can warm dramatically. This was the case during the Medieval Warm Period, when the Vikings first colonized Greenland and when Britain was wine-growing country.

 

If god made the sun he wont let it get too hot and kill us.

He loves us --each and every one.

Thats why im not bothered about Iran nuking us --God just simply wont allow it.

Isnt that right Yobi

 

I thought you weren't going to converse with me any more? Less than 24 hours later, here you are. Missed me, huh?

 

Two people made for eachother.

 

Frosty,
If you were a multi trillionaire with a passel of sons and daughters.
Would you give your 8 and10 year olds a billion dollars each, and say "go have fun"?

Or before giving them their inheritance, would you educate and train them, not only to be responsible with money, but to learn about consequences, sweat, work, pain, disappointment, grief, ALL the aspects of life that build character, and give (by contrast) the GOOD things in life value?
Can't appreciate luxury untill you have experienced want.

Welcome to Tuff Love Boot Camp Earth. Nobody gets out alive!

Nietzsche "That which does not destroy me, makes me stronger!"

And my favorite! "Digressions, objections, delight in mockery, carefree mistrust are signs of health; everything unconditional belongs in pathology. "

regarding the alarmist 'consensus', and collectivism, "Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. "

 

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=9bc9a7c6-2729-4d07-9629-807f1dee479f&k=0

limits of predictability, based on climate modeling, measured in days, not decades.

 

Ok Yobi thats it,--admit it,--your 8 years old and your avatar is a picture of your mum and dad.

And thats why you keep going to the store to get stuff for your Mummy, good boy.

Ok weve had a good laugh now but this place is for grown ups.