Global Warming? are humans to blame?

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Do you believe

  1. Global Warming is occuring as a direct result of Human Activity.

    106 vote(s)
    51.7%
  2. IF Gloabal Warming is occurring it is as a result of Non-Human or Natural Processes.

    99 vote(s)
    48.3%
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  1. Yobarnacle
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    Hoyte. Of course I didn't do the research on boreholes and ice cores myself. I only found the research. Does or does not, a global Medieval Warm Period, warmer then than it is now, blow the whole manmade global warming theory to hell and gone? :)
     
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    It does. They have tried to bury that little fact, however.
     
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    Thanks :) Actually they tried to claim it was a local anomaly only in europe. Cause they knew it would trash all their arguments if it was a global warm period. :) And they had the peer reviewed and accepted report of the 6000 bore holes data over all the continents showing it WAS medieval global warming, a whole year before Mann published his "It's unique warming only in the present" report.
    Knowledge beforehand, deliberately hidden, and ignored, makes it fraud. Lock his arse up! And the rest of them!
     
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    That's not a simple question! :)
    First do a needs analysis.
    1. How much are you prepared to spend on the total propulsion system.
    2. How many hours and at what speeds do you need stored energy. Either liquid fuel or batterys. Before a refuel, recharge.
    3. What is the maximum machinery and fuel/battery weight the boat will carry. This is part of the total load carrying capacity. Obviously, you want to reserve some for passengers and camping gear ect. on board too.
    4. What kinds of water will you use the boat in. Shallow, rock strewn, weedy, salt, fresh, currents, waves, ect.
    Probably a few more things to consider. These above are obvious. :)
     
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    hoytedow Fly on the Wall - Miss ddt yet?

    Forget electric. Gasoline all the way. I love burning fossil fuels because they deliver more energy per pound carried. My budget will allow up to 15 hp but is that much necessary? If less will deliver well without overtaxing the engine why oversize? Overtaxing is always bad in every scenario. I have a 35 lb. thrust trolling motor that would work but I hate carrying that large battery. I believe a lawn tractor size battery on the motor's alternator is adequate for my needs.
     
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    How many miles there and back, maximum, with no available fuel docks enroute?

    I think 15hp is overpowered.
     
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    Here is a suggestion. Build the boat and try it with the trolling motor. Light load, just you, and full load. That will give you a min and max loaded speeds with 35 lbs thrust. Then you can calculate needed thrust and speed, and size the motor purchase with data instead of guessing. :)
     
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    Range won't be a problem. The longest we would ever do might be a cross-Florida run between Ft. Pierce and Ft. Myers. The most open water would be on the order of a Lake Okeechobee or Tampa Bay or close in around Mullet Key or similar coastal island.
     
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    Good idea. I will do just that once it is built. :)
     
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    hoytedow Fly on the Wall - Miss ddt yet?

    If we talk about boat design long enough we might just be able to kill this thread. :p
     
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    Nah! An end of civilization boat is on topic in this thread.
     
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    Recently I asked Boston if he was a Gaia religionist, cause that would go far to explain his views. He didn't respond. But looky here, looky here!
    Yep he IS!
    The Gaia cultists are green-religionists. An ecology religion cult. And he denied his convictions were faith based!
    tsk. tsk. tsk. :)
     
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    Yep I did!

    And yep he did! he denied his convictions were faith based!


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    Yob, CO2 being a major greenhouse gas isn't a matter of faith, or simply part of a belief system. It's a matter of scientific fact -- which as I said, has been established for generations.

    But of course, blurring the line between fact and faith is routinely tried by people who attack science. If they can reduce all scientific facts, systems and theories to matters of faith, then they can claim, "well, it's just your faith against mine."

    Trying to claim CO2 is a minor player simply because there's so little of it compared to water vapor is rhetorical legerdemain and slight of hand. It isn't a matter of how much CO2 there is; it's a matter of what it does.

    OK, I'm really outa here this time. I don't intend to get sucked any farther into this morass. [end Troy quote]

    Bingo

    even I don't see any value in trying to set him straight, some folks are blind, and some put on blindfolds, some simply slowly loose it as they get older. Its not hard to see which combination we've got here
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    Don't want the truth to get lost down stream or in a backwater! :) See post 2830 for the charts!
    It's very simple. Proof that the medieval warm period was indeed global destroys all credibility for man made CO2 warming in current decades.
    By the warmists very own CO2 charts, there wasn't any heightened levels of CO2 in the proxies data for medieval times.
    So! We will wait and see.
    And those of us still alive in 50 years, can desecrate the graves of the Global Warming Alarmist Perpetrators!
    And they'll be infamous rather than famous in the history books. Won't matter to them. They'll be dead.
    I'd rather put them on trial for their lives. NOW!
    Charge? Crimes against humanity! Military tribunal. Guantanamo Bay! Enemies of democracy should not benefit from benefits of the democracy they attempt to destroy! Benefits like trial by jury! Let them suffer the deprivation as they would deprive the rest of us.
     
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