Global Warming? are humans to blame?

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Do you believe

  1. Global Warming is occuring as a direct result of Human Activity.

    106 vote(s)
    51.7%
  2. IF Gloabal Warming is occurring it is as a result of Non-Human or Natural Processes.

    99 vote(s)
    48.3%
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  1. Yobarnacle
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  2. Frosty

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    Agree don't agree who cares. No one will do anything till we all agree and that is a while off yet.

    Best not do anything till we are all choking to death and plants are dying and what left of us live on a small belt under the ice line.

    Some people would not get off the Titanic --they thought it was unsinkable until they rolled out of bed.

    So if you want the government to do something make it worse .
     
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    I "sort" of agree with you Fosty.

    In the hipocratic oath that doctors swear, "First do no harm!".
    The warm-mongers instigate GREAT harm is justified to "save" the planet.

    I believe allowing them to change the world is far more dangerous than a little warming! :)


    You are an engineer, Frosty. Care to point out to folks the mistake in the chart?

    I'm not setting you up. Engineers have very critical eyes. I've trusted my chief engineers to troubleshoot for decades.
     
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    Im a mechanical engineer I don't do Graphs. Im a hands on sweaty overhaul man with fat fingers and dirty finger nails.

    I don't even want to look at your chart or discus it.

    If some one says its raining I look out of the window, I don't look at the barometer and tap it for accuracy then say --nope its not raining yet,--- as the missus is running in with the washing.
     
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    So were the chief engineers I worked with.
    They were excellent at locating problems.
    I envied their keen hearing. They could tell something was wrong with an engine when I couldn't hear any change at all. :)
     
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    No. CO2 is a major greenhouse gas. That's been established for generations, and pretending otherwise makes a mockery of any discussion.
     
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    Lot of people don't know engines can talk. They get moans and groans like humans but when they are happy they sing.
     
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    No. CO2 is a major greenhouse gas. That's been established for generations, and pretending otherwise makes a mockery of any serious discussion.

    I'm going to repeat my post for those who may have missed it, and bow out. I see no reason to sit here pointlessly spinning my wheels....
     
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    Okay Troy.
    I know that my insisting CO2 is 3% of green house gas to water vapors 95%, is akin to telling a christian Christ didn't rise from the dead.

    To accept that, in either case, it makes the belief system null and void.
    :)
     
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    And round and round and round we go.

    Excuse my while I just go outside and hit myself over the head with something heavy and blunt.
     
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    I believe you Frosty. I just can't do it. Wish I could.
     
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    Correct-- but what is a belief system.
     
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    Frosty
    I think you know what a belief system is.
    You start off with a basic, underlying fact (or belief).
    Then you build upon the logic untill you derive many extrapolated facts, or hypothesis.

    In geometry, you begin with axioms, and build theorems on it.

    If the base assumption fails, so does the whole system of constructs.

    Specifically, if Christ hadn't risen from the dead, christianity falls apart.

    Without CO2 being the DOMINANT green house gas, man made global warming collapses.
     
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    Frosty Previous Member

    Specifically?--- Christ is not known to exist.

    In that case the base of the belief system has at least to be sound 100% solid as a rock.

    Your Christ thing was a real no no .

    If its getting hotter then that is a base but not 0.3 degrees since 1987 or what ever.

    Its getting hotter when the fish in the river die or a type of tree dies out. AND NOT when a scientist with thick glasses on says so pointing at a graph.

    In Glasgow last Monday it was -1 degree,---in April.

    Is that Global warming or global cooling.
     

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    I think that's called weather. :)
     
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