Global economic situation for liveaboard cruising yachties

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  1. Frosty

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    Not only unemployment but absenteeism, Ive never seen a place like it.

    Work is a dirty word and beneath most people, Australia is heading for **** too but for different reasons.
     
  2. masalai
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    Jealous? - - - - - it is a dirty word isn't it?
     
  3. Frosty

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    Un believable absenteeism leaving employers with un completed contracts with no ability to punish or even recover lost time due to the overwhelming power of the unions and the Laws of Australia.

    All be it set about by the sixties of UK however,-- but Maggie sorted Aurthur Scargill out who was responsable for the 3 day week and the debilitating minors strike. I believe he left to live in Tasmania where he managed to get back into his silly ways and got a theme park closed down by striking against managements pleads.
     
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    I cannot agree with your postulation citing "unbelievable absenteeism" - I have not seen evidence of such working for Hamersley Iron in the Pilberra, watching Patricks & P&O at Port of Brisbane (when I was with AQIS), and lots of other places????

    There are a few AH bosses who treated employees like ****/slaves, and the old days of traditional hard nosed bargaining every third year in say the hi-rise building arena - I understand knuckle sandwiches were dispensed by all sides of occasion....

    Large sections of the workforce are casual - asked if one wants work the previous evening, as I have done of occasion, by registering with several agencies, so sometimes you decline an offer - and if you say am working elsewhere today, you risk not getting any more offers but "being sick" and you may get a call tomorrow - all politics involved in getting more hours....
     
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    This says it all:- - - -

    “Permit me to issue and control the money of the nation and I care not who makes its laws.” - Mayer Amschel Rothschild, founder of the Rothschild family international banking dynasty

    “And I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies.” - Thomas Jefferson

    Both made around the time, when a group of bankers "promised" to fix the monetary problems encountered by Americans, and who became the 'founding fathers of the FED'... and nobody listened to the voices of concern, such as T Jefferson - bloody fools............ and still are... analysis and essay here http://financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/wakefield/2009/0710.html

    Take some medicine, time? http://financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/2009/0710.html

    http://financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/deepcaster/2009/0710.html "Profits v. The Threat: Beauty & The Beast Redux"

    all effort is directed to watching, holding and waiting for indicators, too many baskets, too many plays... I would like one wish - let the free market do its thing unencumbered by vested interests pushing and pulling in every direction... :D:D:D:D but that won't happen...
     
  6. Frosty

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    Good morning --yawn,---You dont still have that gold do you mas, tee hee.
     
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    Still buying as are the Chinese:D:D - they buy tonnes, I buy ozs....
     
  8. Boston

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    one of those houses just got purchased
    course that ones been sitting over a year but hey
    it sold

    Obummer is
    if I understand it correctly
    not actually eligible to be the president for two reasons
    he is not a born citizen of the country
    and he held duel citizenship for most of his adult life
    doesnt really mater I suppose
    nor does it mater that no bill he presented was successful and passed while he was a senator nor that the two he did present failed by a nearly unanimous vote
    one for a post office name change ( failed ) and the other for the economic advancement of Kenya ( failed )
    he also became senator originally when he, as a lawyer, studied the campain rules unique to Chicago and in a last minute legal challenge had his primary rivals legally bared from the ballot on technical issues
    including the incumbent
    a real honest player isnt he
    remind you of anything that happened in the presidential election over the eligibility of votes
    MR get out and vote I guess meant get out and vote for me or I will fight to have your vote disqualified
    which has been a pattern of Obummers throughout his career
    actually he wouldnt have a career were it not for similar dirty tricks throughout
    Obummer is a token placed ( by some small group who actually run this mess ) before to the US people and nothing more
    he had been a race law professor at the university of Chicago having started out as a slum lord lawyer and used the courts and legal loopholes to get were he is
    he is a puppet and it was politically advantageous to have a him in order to fool the world into thinking the usa was somehow making progress in its basic racist ways
    my two cents is that in politics the smelliest **** rises to the top and in this case he is it
    twisted thing is that if Obummer actually did everything for the US he says he will do for Africa we would be fine
    kinda makes me wonder who he is thinks he is supposed to be working for

    this biz about the second stimulus
    it had better go the way of the Dodo fast
    or we are really screwed
    those few who already got all the money and cant pay that back
    Im sure they would love an excuse to be given more,
    my bet is graft from all the "stimulation" is going to straight to the feds holders

    oh well
    the markets tanking anyway and given the sentiment will react badly to any additional stimulus

    example of economic "stimulus"
    one of my faves is the new GM
    what they did was basically ditch all there creditors and take any valued components of the company and "sell" them to a new GM
    they will divvy up the token payments for those assets and split that among the creditors
    bankrupting them instead of original GM
    nice trick eh
    I wonder how many smaller businesses employing how many people will be adversely effected
    way to shuffle the losses to someone else GM
    just goes to prove the shaft the little guy policies are working I guess

    did I mention what spectacular gov oversight it is to force the loss on to the few healthy businesses that probably would have survived ( or would have until the stimulus came around )

    my fave is that they are all congratulating one another over there
    "success"
    at what
    at having driven countless competently run smaller businesses out of business to save one large incompetent one
    brilliant plan Obummer
    keep up the good work
    I ask you MR President
    which way do you think the market will move if one companies stocks remain but behave sporadically ( as I predict the new GM's will for instance )
    and a hundred ( the creditors forced to bankruptcy to save the one ) tank into oblivion
    love B
     
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    Well, where are the "tea-parties" dressed in western clothes this time, to express the disapproval of the American populace at the efforts in "bailout/stimulous" and illegal behaviour of much of big corporate america (in red etc to differentiate from the morally and ethically pure citizenry - if any exist?)??? I am sure it is time for the little guy to be seen and heard - on this occasion "herd behaviour" is acceptable:D:D:D:D
     
  10. Boston

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    Ive often wondered if a class action suet on the part of the American people against the mismanagement of the country by the politicians might be in order
    ( course a general lynching might be more in order eh )
    it does seem the policies of just about every administration have resulted in

    a steady lowering in the standard of living
    at least for people off the reservations people on the reservations are living rock bottom anyway and have been for the duration

    a steady shift of jobs overseas

    a steady shift of manufacturing overseas

    a steady decline in education

    a steady decline in the environmental well being with progressively larger and larger areas of local ocean and farmland going out of productivity

    the list of failures is endless but this biz of rewarding companies who ship jobs of any kind overseas is the most egregious

    it leaves me wondering why we have not sued the senate, congress and presidency for incompetence when clearly they have acted in there own self interests rather than the interests of the people

    makes me laugh at the incompetence you can get away with and still end up rich

    interesting thing that comes to mind is that historically wealth was never earned it was nearly always stolen
    so I ask you
    whats changed
     
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    Just more and more people demand a slice of the action and/or a bigger cut.... - particularly if they have a firm and threatening grasp on the testicles of "the right people" with money...
     
  12. Boston

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    an excellent one sentence definition of one of the major problems of the bribery system of representation Mas
    kinda makes me want to take a stab at it mate

    regardless of the branch or agency of government, within even the simplest of transactions, the graft gets added on at every level until finally, the majority of the expense is graft and only a small percentage is actually going to the benefit of the people ( politicians do not qualify as people IMHO ).

    how else would there ever be an excuse for a no bid contract
    or where else would you ever find such an arraignment other than in government and why

    I could launch into a brief on the Indian agents contracts to buy rotted beef rejected from the US army to meet there contractual obligations however
    since they never actually met those obligations by either providing the specified amount of food let alone edible food ( they were never expected to do otherwise ) yet inspite of this well established fact were offered no bid contract after no bid contract
    although I know this example well it would be a rather poor example of the graft system at work
    issue with it being used as an example is most of the agents were appointed and not elected
    then again that same system of graft is how they bribed there way to there appointments in the first place
    I mention it cause its the example I know best
    somehow Im sure all of us can agree on one thing if nothing else
    graft is rampant in nearly all government contracts
    has been for some time
    and
    is unlikely to change any time soon
     
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    Thems that have it, have paid minions to ensure they can keep it, - so - an inside job is the only recourse:D:D:D

    To clean out all the rot and worms from the apple barrel may receive gratitude, but soon forgotten - well before due respect, (appropriate payment), is received... Think well of the "Pied Piper of Hamlin" and have several profitable backup plans in place too :D:D:D

    An anonymous "robin hood" may make the stuff of legends and as a book and movie, sell as a good earner later... or the poem introducing the Scarlet pimpernel "...They seek him here, they seek him there..." - multiple persons with the same identity, - who can each disappear into anonymity... Be seen in several places at once,,, and "copy cats" can be useful???
     
  14. Frosty

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    Madoff will not appeal against his 150 year sentence.

    Hes not daft, probably safer in there than out.
     

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    and the taxpayer will pay 50K a year to keep him (Madoff) comfortable & I just heard the US is going to tax soda waterdrinks (coke etc) WTF:D:D:D

    Somebody just said, "Don't stand behind a coughing cow" - - Just think of the issues there - - - - There is madness spreading rabidly through USA... Have you heard of "cow flu" when one infected coughs, lots of **** get blown out.... or are they poking fun at the cap in trade bill totally nuckin futs.... - Go find it, Financial sense podcast part 4... But listen to part 2 as that is a bit wacko but rings a bell of "interesting and plausible"...

    Pity N Korea is sooo much 'just pissing into the wind'.... - - - - right now a unifying diversion could be just what is needed to distract people, (US citizens), whilst they are being fitted with manacles and bar-codes for their future in slavery to pay off all the debts incurred in bailing out corporate-america...

    Just found an excellent read - enjoy - http://theburningplatform.com/economy/boomers-winter-is-coming-1
     
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