Global economic situation for liveaboard cruising yachties

Well it's sort of like this Mas. You do a lot of shouting and screaming about America screwing up your future plans and manipulations being pulled in the markets. You want to draw and quarter Americans for all this going on. BUT you fail to post anything significant that points to the persons or actual party thats actually responsible for these actions. I know it ain't the general American citizen, hell the rate it's going we're going to be living third world standards like so many other countries. We need credible sources of the responsible parties involved and evidence to back it up, and then maybe just maybe someone will have the balls to prosecute them for their actions.

Their's a lot of dissatisfaction in this country going on at the moment and people and parties are gathering because of it. But if it comes to a head everyone with a brain knows the real enemy is wall street and the politicians they are in bed with. Even the military realizes are real enemy in a since is ourselves and the money grubbers that are trying to destroy our way of life. Here's an interesting group I'm glad to have in the background and we need more of them. http://oathkeepers.org/oath/ Yes it does seem to be shaping up to be a civil war if this path continues we're on at the moment, the sepal arn't happy and a lot of discontent in the ranks here.

 

Bamby,
USA is, by the deceit of a few, "allowed" by many, not loved nor respected... Not just I, (I explain it simply from my perception "as I am just a little flea", but MOST of the WORLD...

"tj-autumn-09" by Cilente, names names and explains what is going on - His earlier essays, to which he refers in this are sufficient to give him the credentials to know what has and is happening...

Maintain yourself up-to-date with information from GATA research, Ron Paul, and financially support their efforts to "audit the FED... A good half of the stuff on FinancialSense, All Casey's reports and a lot of others all add their perspectives and that will give you the 'big picture' and other bits and pieces you will encounter may add to the view and possibly lead you to comment "That makes sense, it seems to fit..."

The mass media is in the pockets of what I call "the money managers" for it is more than the merchant bankers, (but not all of them)... It is key bureaucrats, (but not all of them)... It is probably most of the politicians and most of the "advisers and lobbyists" who are complicit by allowing such corrupt behaviour, and by complacent silence maybe some could morally cite most of the good citizens for being so quiet and accepting of anomalies that are bigger than a bully delivering a punch on the nose of each of the silent majority....

Have you read ALL the links? some "follow the line" and are tame but have lots of holes in their logic and supporting arguments/presuppositions... others are quite forthright and denigrated by the "authority figures" saying "there are no flying saucers" - or "the tea-party fools" and denying the obvious numbers and that they are mainly respectable middle class who are feeling the pain and have been diligently networking and seeking their own answers...

Start cataloguing and saving as many relevant documents as come to your attention (quite a few government archives get removed shortly after they are discovered)... and keep the website from which you downloaded them so you can show from whence they came, after they have been removed...

 

Please explain, If the USA is sooo strong, why the AU$ has appreciated some 40% against it, since March 2009... -- http://www.kitco.com/gold_currency/charts.htm?AUD (& click on the 10 year button) -- Why gold prices have been heavily suppressed by up to 4 but lately just 2 major "Merchant Banks" very close to the FED, who have short positions on gold that are impossible -- http://www.futures.tradingcharts.com/cotcharts/GD -- (450,000 x 100 oz mostly NAKED short on COMEX - - about 1406.25 tonnes) which probably do not exist to be covered if delivery is required... - that is for USA, when in London, a couple of weeks ago, a small settlement on the LBMA could not be settled.... (read the "ThunderRoadReport" pdf - last file attached in this post) There is only about 163000 tonnes of gold "above ground" as per one estimate could be lots more of less - essentially just a guess... so it is a very rare and valuable metal that has served for many thousands of years as money.... and a solid and reliable international asset... It is significantly undervalued - just look at a 10 year of more gold price chart and smooth and extend the exponential curve of natural value and tell me what you feel it should be:?::?: one hall of a lot more than it is now and remember the Major merchant banks have been suppressing the value of gold bullion by creating "paper gold" and suppression of the metal prices since a bit before 1971 as an instrument to support fiat (valueless paper currency)...

Just roughly smoothing out the kitco 10 year chart and discounting a little of the manipulation gold should be above US$1350 and around Au$1800 by now - easily... :?::?::?::!::!: but that is just my rough guestimate following the trend line....

The denial of market manipulation is an unsupportable postulation, there is just too much evidence that points to deception and manipulation...

When markets are manipulated, for whatever reason or excuse, there are often severe and unforeseen adverse consequences... denial and failure to eliminate manipulation has historically resulted in DISASTER... - - That is all I "preach" - - tidy profits can be made in honest and fair trade, deviation leads to disaster... The longer the deviation/fraud/manipulation persists the greater the retribution/correction/compensation...

 

becozzzz usa currently being run by foooools.

 

Good night, all, even t3 and masrapido.

 

Boston, No anger or displeasure in your direction, as I enjoy your take on things and how it effectively kicks the deniers where it hurts whereas I just go equally rabid in desperation (possibly because I care:?

Mostly everyone is quite nice and easy to call/consider as a friend or kindrid spirit (trying to get back onto the Ghost/masalai track) but failing so will leave it at that:!:

And I did pinch and use your story-line - - Thanks

http://www.caseyresearch.com/displayCwc.php?e=true - Casey research newsletter (USA)
http://theburningplatform.com/economy/american-pie-1 - Jim Quinn news letter (USA) - - Leaves me deeply worried and concerned... May your deity give you peace...

two free email reports from Australia....
http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au/subscribe-dr/ - subscribe here for free - - interesting perspective - lots of spam in the email but easy to sort and read what you find interesting
http://www.moneymorning.com.au/subscribe - subscribe here for free - - interesting perspective - lots of spam in the email but easy to sort and read what you find interesting

Do not forget the reading here http://financialsense.com/index.html 13 essays (including one late arrival from the previous day) http://financialsense.com/editorials/schmidt/2009/1019.html

 

...And I'm not going to read further for I havn't the time nor energy (I have a cold).

"fiscally responsible conservatives when old Reorge was in charge" This is the big F-up. They were spending like Obamas on payday so we don't have moral authority. Conservatism has lately been antithema to Republicans - or, at least, forgotten and ignored. I cannot deny this and can only add, "prosecute the individuals responsible and throw damned near ALL (D and R) of them out." This ******** of a senator serving one term and collecting salary for life, making us eat Obamacare while they are exempted and have a better plan, one person paying the way for another that doesn't want to work, and a multitude of other sins, THIS HAS ALL GOT TO STOP. Think about it, in addition to protecting from potential military threats, what is the one thing the government is truly responsible for? The one thing is upholding the Constitution - stray from that and get impeached, I say. Notice, Obama, you slime-ball, I didn't say CORRECT the constitution - I said UPHOLD the constitution. THAT'S their job. They need to start their workday with "What can we do to UNDO what has been done contrary to the Constitution.", "What can we do that is MORAL, CORRECT?" Anything less is criminal.

Seems Reorge started out with thanks to Clinton" Give me a break - Clinton was to Reagan as Madison was to Jefferson - a coattail rider. Granted, a little different circumstance but, just the same, Madison prospered because of Jefferson and the only thing Clinton did well was observe what was working and turn fiscally conservative. This was but an air bubble in Clinton's leftist leanings and he is wont to say or do whatever is politically expediant. Remember, Clinton instituted a vicious gun ban and NAFTA.
This is the history of politics - A president does a good job and a couple after him benefit. Just look at George Senior - a nice guy. Gerald Ford - a nice guy. What more can be said for these guys? I won't go all the way through 40some Prezes but it has always been this way.
Maybe when I feel better, I'll give a good whippin' but for now...just remember that pols and finances are entertwined. You get that, Mas? A financial system without a moral governance is highly improbable, if not impossible. This is why Mao, Stalin, Hitler, etc., all got it wrong - a little corruption (there's that nasty self-interest again) and a system without checks and balances cannot succeed. The design of the US government was a work of art and made us the most successful in the history of the world. Only when complacency set in did we start to lose it...

 

I have no opinion WHATSOEVER of obama. I am not even going to capitalize his name because it is not worthy. If an admin reads this, don't ban me or kick me from the forums just because I am stating a fact. All the people that voted for obama are realizing their mistake, and he shouldn't even have gotten office because Acorn did all of those fraudulent votes, not to mention all the crap Acorn got caught doing over the last few months. I believe obama will just screw up America worse than it is. If one of you admins decides to ban me for saying this stuff, well I will take full credit for saying it . I am not going to have my rights violated, one in particular, freedom of speech.

 

Imagine what it would be like if the war was where the ruler(s) of the countries at war just had a duel between each other and whoever one the duel won the war. Imagine how much money and lives and resources would be saved. That would be the "Change" that I would suggest. Instead of sending some young kids who never had the horrible experience of killing a man before to fight your battle, fight the battle that you started and end the battle that you started. It would only take a few seconds also.

 

mgriffin....that is soooooooo true, if "they" want to fight...go do it, do not send in others to do what you want to do....it will end wars overnight of course, no more money for the scabs, so this will not happen....sad but true

 

Hooofuckinray, get more angry, become revoltingly dis-custard and soc-fuckit good to em... Huh:?::?:

Do I at last detect some sense of doing something... and God may have said "I am well pleased" at some time in the past, may my little voice express similarly a pleasure in a perceived turn in attitude? that some may want to do something...

 

The American Self Immolation, Truly a Sight to See

As my readers know, I am a fan of economics and of history, as well as politics, a combination that forms some very interesting cycles to research, discuss and argue on. None is so interesting than the death of great nations, for here there is always the self destruction that comes before the final breakups and invasions. As they say: Rome did not fall to the barbarians, all they did was kick in the rotting gates.

It can be safely said, that the last time a great nation destroyed itself through its own hubris and economic folly was the early Soviet Union (though in the end the late Soviet Union still died by the economic hand). Now we get the opportunity to watch the Americans do the exact same thing to themselves. The most amazing thing of course, is that they are just repeating the failed mistakes of the past. One would expect their fellow travelers in suicide, the British, to have spoken up by now, but unfortunately for the British, their education system is now even more of a joke than that of the Americans.

While taking a small breather from mouthing the never ending propaganda of recovery, never mind that every real indicator is pointing to death and destruction, the American Marxists have noticed that the French and Germans are out of recession and that Russia and Italy are heading out at a good clip themselves. Of course these facts have been wrapped up into their mind boggling non stop chant of "recovery" and hope-change-zombification. What is ignored, of course, is that we and the other three great nations all cut our taxes, cut our spending, made life easy for small business...in other words: the exact opposite of the Anglo-Sphere.

That brings us to Cap and Trade. Never in the history of humanity has a more idiotic plan been put forward and sold with bigger lies. Energy is the key stone to any and every economy, be it man power, animal power, wood or coal or nuclear. How else does one power industry that makes human life better (unless of course its making the bombs that end that human life, but that's a different topic). Never in history, with the exception of the Japanese self imposed isolation in the 1600s, did a government actively force its people away from economic activity and industry.

Even the Soviets never created such idiocy. The great famine of the late 1920s was caused by quite the opposite, as the Soviets collectivized farms to force peasants off of their land and into the big new factories. Of course this had disastrous results. So one must ask, are the powers that be in Washington and London degenerates or satanically evil? Where is the opposition? Where are the Republicans in America and Tories in England?

The unfortunate truth here is: the Republicans and Tories are the Mensheviks to the Democrat and Labour Bolsheviks. In other words, they are the slightly less radical fellow travellers who are to stupid to realize that once their usefulness is done, they will go the very camps they will help send the true opposition to. A more deserving lot was rarely born. Of course half of the useful idiots in the Bolshevik groupings will go to those very same camps.

One express idiocy of Cap and Trade in America will be the approximately additional $.19 per liter of gasoline, which is a rather very large increase in taxation, however indirectly. Of course this will not only hit the American working serfs in the pocket at fuel up, but will hit them in everything they buy and do, as America has almost no real rail to even partially off set the cost of transporting goods.

But how will this work itself out? Very simple and the chain of events has been worked out often enough.

First, the serfs will start to scream at the cost of fueling up and the cost of all their goods. The government, ever anxious not to take responsibility, will single out the petroleum factories and oil companies for gauging the people. They will make demands for them to cut prices, which of course means working for a loss. When plants start to close down or move overseas, they will be called racketeers and saboteurs. Their facilities will be nationalized so that the government can show them how to do things properly. Shortages will follow as will show trials and that's as long as the USD holds up and foreign nations are still willing to sell oil and gasoline for other than gold, silver and other hard resources.

When food goes up, and it surely will, as the diesel the farmer uses goes up as well as his fertilizers, the government will scream that the farmers are hording, thus undermining the efforts of the enlightened. There will be confiscations of all feed crops while the farmers will get production quotas to meet or have their land nationalized again. Do not believe me? Look at the people running your governments and ask yourself: would they rather take some one's land or admit that they screwed up and ruined everything? After a point, only the corporate farms will remain, food by oligarch, just a like the factory farms. There will be plenty of dissidents to work them.

This will of course spread from industry to industry and within a rather short order, you will be living the new fractional dream, that is a fraction of what you have now. But on the bright side, for once, your children, working for government/oligarch run joint ventures, will be able to compete adequately with the Chinese, to feed the demands of Europe and Latin America. But that will take at least a generation or two first along with a cultural revolution or two.

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/109977-0/

 

speaking of Russia's fall I gotta wonder if this writer ever wrote propaganda for the communist state, that was quite a set up leading to this ridiculous notion

the energy companies are making record profits and capping wells and reducing production to keep prices as high as possible, no one is even remotely suggesting they be nationalized
the only fall in prices as I think we can all agree was short term and did little but reduce the supply side costs and hardly the dented the corporate profit margins ( corporations responded to the low prices at the well by buying up as much as they could store )
it was speculators that got the brunt of the loss, certainly not the energy companies.

that an equating the fall of Rome to some form of energy crisis within the empire is just laughable; Rome fell for a number of reasons but oil and gas wasn't one of them

sorry for the bad review but that was one complete fairy tail
poorly researched and patronizing of an ignorant public
while there can be some similarities found in the fall of the soviet union, none were accurately compared to the fall of the USA,

the one thing I did like was the equal blame it placed on both republicans and democrats; surely both should hang together from the white house portcullis for all to see.

Best
B

oh hey Mas
no worries mate
all in good fun

cheers
B

 

I agree, Bos, but the core is that, not as you said, "equating the fall of Rome to some form of energy crisis", but that Rome rotted from the inside. Also, they will not nationalize the oil companies - they have already left to Zug, with its low taxation. In all, I tend to be a little less down on industry and WAY more down on government.
McSniffin' - I know where your heart is - and it is in sound territory. You will not be banned for saying something about Obama - this is not CNN, ABC, PMSNBC, New York Times, nor any other state media. I have to comment on the "duel" thing tho, while we're on the subject of fantacy. It is.
Landlubber, It is a leftist propaganda that "wars are profitable". Think about it - almost all of our expendable stuff is made by FNHerstal http://www.fnherstal.com/ , the US government is not spending vast amounts of money to support this company in Belgium. The big company doing a lot of work in Iraq, the name escapes me...Schlumberger maybe, no it seems it started with an "H". "Halliburton" it is, is losing money. One of only two companies in the world that could possibly do that work (the other is the French company, Schlumberger), and they are losing money!
Speaking of Halliburton, Did you see Dick Cheney kick Obama's *** AGAIN? http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/22/cheney-slams-obama-on-afghanistan-policy/?hp ...And I found the vid on the NYT wesite!

 

Ya' know, I could give a ***** less about which way America goes. I am moving to some other country as soon as I'm 18. Maybe british columbia or russia or europe, somewhere where I can take a piss of my porch without getting in trouble, where it's very sparsely populated.