Gas from Water, (WaterFuel), HHO technology

Discussion in 'Propulsion' started by brian eiland, May 15, 2006.

  1. quarktoo
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    quarktoo ProSpeller

    If you could read, you would understand that it takes a battery to START not "work". After that, it "works" indefinitely without the battery.

    The significance of the experiment was wasted on your sub-sixth grade mind. To understand it, you would need to dig into the work of a couple of guys named Lee and Yang who won a Nobel prize back in 1957. Comprehending it is over your head completely and most likely mine too to some extent.
     
  2. mark775

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    Did I say something to you, Muffinmind?
     
  3. quarktoo
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    Hi stupid,

    How are you today?

    If you were not a dumb troll, you would have read my post which stated:

    I cited a university that replicated it and provided proof. Now if you are too stupid to read then that is not my problem. Pasting pointless definitions and toilet paper references only further make my point.

    You are obviously here for one reason and one reason only and that is to troll anyone that discloses free energy technology. That's O.K., you only make my case regarding suppression.

    BTW - you are too obvious. Learn from king David, he uses plenty of lubrication and some science based in circular logic to try and disprove it.

    If I didn't have you trolls to play with while Dave bones up on that Leedskalnin coil, I would be board. I'm calling it a day, good night trolls.
     
  4. quarktoo
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    quarktoo ProSpeller

    No, you only make a fool of yourself with your delusional rants and it is done to bury the useful information I have posted. What you are up to and who you are is obvious.

    Without oil, Israel loses out on 30 billion a year and the US has no strategic national interest in the middle east and no military to fight Israels wars for oil. The free energy movement is growing, not getting smaller. More people are inventing devices faster than you can suppress and buy them. People are learning science that is suppressed. Sucks to be you huh? You can fight your own wars and make a living working like everyone else rather than making it off everyone else.
     
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    I think he's board.
     
  6. FAST FRED
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    People are learning science that is suppressed.

    Seems there is more "science" that is pure political BS than suppressed .

    Remember the GLOBAL WARMING HOAX?

    FF
     
  7. quarktoo
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    Agreed Fred and in the end it is all the same. While most heard about the emails and false data they were faking to justify the carbon tax, you never heard much about the scientists that lost their careers at NASA and other places for stating the obvious regarding the Sun and its cycles.

    I know a scientist that spent 30 years studying the size of the heliosphere and lost it all for stating the obvious truth. They finally figured out a way to tax the light of day and the corrupt government was involved every step of the way.

    Most people don't realize that without research grants, most scientist might as well be over educated dog catchers. That expensive PHD and all that work is useless.

    So people are taking it upon themselves and you know what? They should have been doing it all along. We got lazy and just kept saying "let the government take care of us." Every tax dollar given to one person was stolen from someone else and for the most part, the ultra wealthy pay nothing and many make their money off government contracts.

    It just isn't right but if we all find a common link in that we all want to be free and prosper, we all will. Their worst fear is that we are all going to get on the same page, look around as say "wow, there is 9999 of us for every 1 of them" - game over.

    Glad to see we are on the same page.
     
  8. Luckless
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    You have NOT provided Proof. "This guy on a youtube video says this unnamed chemical added to water creates heat!" is Not Proof of Free Energy. If you do not see how this is not proof, then I really don't see how you can function in a scientific community.

    In your links you provided nothing worth reading. I'm not going to go digging through the internet to try and find documents that you should be able to easily provide the locations of off the top of your head.

    I'm not trying to 'suppress' free energy, I'm trying to get you to cough up something even close to real science and REAL data that shows your claims of free energy are REAL.

    Do you know anything about science, the scientific method, or experiment procedures?

    This is the only information you have provided for me to actually go on:

    1. "Energy in Water" + "Added Energy" = "Energy in Water" + "Added Energy"

    2. "Energy in Water" + "Added Energy" + "Chemical" = "Energy in Water" + "Added Energy" + "Extra Energy"

    Traditions of science point to any extra energy coming from that added "Chemical", NOT magically coming out of no where.

    Where are the experiments that show the process continues on? Where is the data and methodology showing how inputting a small about of energy into this initial breeder reactor allows you to produce enough energy and chemical to run itself forever with energy left over?


    The video you posted shows us nothing we haven't seen before. In fact I can set up the exact same 'experiment' using far older tech to give the exact same results you have presented us.

    I have a container of water, I put my 'chemical' (coal) into the fire box below this container, add a small amount of energy (fire), and behold! "Free Energy!" The machine produces more energy in the form of heat than the initial energy I used! The water gets far hotter with the coal in the fire box than it would with just the match alone! Give me my Nobel prize!

    Yes, I'm a sarcastic jerk. But you still haven't posted any actual data.


    Answer these simple questions:
    1. Can the system be scaled to generate more power than what went into it to start the reaction?
    2. Is the chemical in the reactor depleted over time?
    2b. If Yes: What is the process of creating the chemical used, and does the answer in question 1 hold for the power used to create the chemical?

    If you cannot answer these questions, then I have a gold mine in Borneo you might be interested in buying shares in.
     
  9. CDK
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    Quarktoo, I have no intention to join this mud-throwing contest which originated from a totally misinterpreted topic about H2O.

    There is however one question I'd like you to answer: can you sing?

    If yes, that would explain a lot.

    I have a (fortunately distant) German neighbor who firmly believes any other language is a poor substitute. Had the great English poets learned German, they would have produced far superior work.
    He is absolutely sure that all major inventions were either done by Germans or inspired by them. And there are conspiracies, like the everlasting light bulb, developed by Siemens and kept in their vault, just like the cable without loss (zero resistance). Eternal motion has no secrets for him, he can show you drawings of mechanical and electrical devices that need to be set into motion only once; some even generate power.

    He is a self-centered, almost autistic, dominant man with very limited education. His only virtue is a deep baritone voice that enabled him to make a living as an opera singer.

    Btw, I live in the country where Nikola Tesla came from. In fact I visited the place he was born a few months ago. His parents were Serbs, the village is in a very damaged area of Croatia and his career started in Maribor, Slovenia, so calling him a Yugoslav is fairly accurate. All three countries claim his citizenship and honor him with statues. That he emigrated to the US was not unusual at the time: it was considered to be the nation of unlimited opportunities. In Tesla's case, it turned out somewhat disappointing: he died a poor man in New York.
     
  10. apex1

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    He died young Cornelis.
    When you visited the place he was born a few months ago, and he is already dead!??


    could´nt resist.............
     
  11. quarktoo
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    There is some truth to what what he said regarding Germans as they do in fact contribute to science in a huge way. When you compare their contributions to other countries of similar population size, the per capita contribution of Germany dwarfs most other countries.

    Compare Germany to other countries by population or science and academics produced and see for yourself.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population

    Some people can't handle the truth or dare not speak it. Here is a simple truth - if it were not for Germany, the US would not control space and much of the technology that NASA has produced over the last half century. Without that space program, you would not be able to sing to me from half way around the world. All generalizations are false, including this one.

    You claim to:
    While you sling mud.

    You claim that the subject:
    ...yet offer nothing other than mud slinging. You fit right in with the trolls.

    Does the term projection mean anything to you? It is something that retards have in common as they go through life with an inverted sense of reality projecting their flaws on others while fearing being exposed, never having a sense of self knowing while in a state of unconsciousness.

    Were you above it all when it came to clearing up that misinterpreted subject of water fuel or are you just another empty hat?
     
  12. quarktoo
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    quarktoo ProSpeller

    While he died financially poor, in the ways a life should be measured, he died a very wealthy man. Few people in history are held in such high regard as Tesla for his contributions to humanity and the love is all you really get to take with you.

    Had we been worthy, and had he been free to do all he could have without the interference from scum like JP Morgan, Tesla would have changed the world and ended all war.

    He was 86 years old when he died, that is hardly young unless you are a dinosaur. You must have been joking?

    EDIT-
    O.K., I get your joke.. Ha ha
    -EDIT
     
  13. mark775

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    Luckless, you, Dave, Cornelius, I (most recently post 210), and others have ended this so many times that anyone but a kook should cry craven and slink back under his rock. Even The WikiChileno has *****-slapped this wacko. Lest we forget, scared animals are wont to do unexpected things;
    scared_giraffe.jpg

    Imagine a scared animal that doesn't have the same mental faculties as others of its class - say, thru chemical exposure or, more likely, chemical exposure of its mother during pregnancy. Combine this with not having a paternal role-model but many coming and going out of the mother's life with the cycle of the moon. Continued chemical exposure, lack of interaction with peers, beatings...well, you get the picture...
    There is no reasoning with a level of paranoia and self-loathing this profound. We must bear in mind that we are not dealing with a being like ouselves - we are dealing with the unmitigable antithesis to a world of reason, the kook.
     
  14. quarktoo
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    quarktoo ProSpeller

    Since you have nothing to offer to the subject of HHO and alternative propulsion, you should go away.

    Perhaps Dr. Dave is suddenly absent because he is busy trying to replicate that Leedskalnin coil and explain it, I would like to think that. It is also possible that he ran from the intellectual property of a 10 year old that can't be explained useing classic EM, I would not like to think that. It is also possible that he is not interested in the barrage of trolling that this website allows when someone is promising to demonstrate a principle that makes a free energy device.

    Yes, it seems that the trolls and the owner of this web site must have something in common for this to continue day after day.

    If you have something related to the discussion, post it. It you only have the pedantic slander of a psycho tell it to your shrink. It has no place here. You clearly have the mind of a child and what you project in every way.
     

  15. CDK
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    Very sharp Richard, you must have been wide awake that late.

    Quarktoo didn't admit nor deny he also is a singer. But the resemblance is striking: my German singer, who could easily pass for a reincarnation of Saddam Hussein, only laughs over his own jokes.
     
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