Future Sportfisherman Looks like the Past?

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by juiceclark, Feb 11, 2008.

  1. brian eiland
    Joined: Jun 2002
    Posts: 5,067
    Likes: 216, Points: 73, Legacy Rep: 1903
    Location: St Augustine Fl, Thailand

    brian eiland Senior Member

    Baits over their Heads

    I was just scimming back over this subject thread and took note of this kite method of delivering bait...interesting. Thanks Plankton for your postings.
     
  2. brian eiland
    Joined: Jun 2002
    Posts: 5,067
    Likes: 216, Points: 73, Legacy Rep: 1903
    Location: St Augustine Fl, Thailand

    brian eiland Senior Member

    Plankton, what do you think of this idea I've suggested recently to a couple of fellows?..... Take one of Tennant's most recent powercat designs (Domino 20 meter) and convert it into a motorsailer. Of course we might also add a fishing capability as well ;)

    Just a roughed in rendition
     

    Attached Files:

  3. viking north
    Joined: Dec 2010
    Posts: 1,868
    Likes: 94, Points: 48, Legacy Rep: 1146
    Location: Newfoundland & Nova Scotia

    viking north VINLAND

    Interesting fishing method, kites dragging bait. Just curious what condition are the tuna stocks in your neck of the woods. Here in the east coast of Canada they are very strickly controlled and sports fishing is catch and release. Huge tuna being caught in the sports fishery here these past few years.
     
  4. whitepointer23

    whitepointer23 Previous Member

    here on the victorian coast of australia the southern bluefin tuna are getting larger and more prolific every year. 10 yrs ago a 10 kg was a large bluefin now they are getting them to 150 kg. it is fantastic to see such great results from fishery management strategies. the tuna in the pic was caught in may off apollo bay.
     

    Attached Files:

  5. plankton
    Joined: Jul 2008
    Posts: 23
    Likes: 1, Points: 0, Legacy Rep: 14
    Location: Jupiter, FL

    plankton Hang on, beeg wave !

    Interesting, Brian. I like the look of it, though to me it seems like a lot of sail ! Will you have computerization on board for trimming and reefing ? And how do you plan to implement the fishing bit ? Duckboards over the swim platform ? (just kidding !). Would love to see some more detailed renditions.....what is in her for power ?

    You will need to make sure the helmsman can see the cockpit during fishing - maybe a secondary helm and set of electric throttles aft somewhere ?
     
  6. brian eiland
    Joined: Jun 2002
    Posts: 5,067
    Likes: 216, Points: 73, Legacy Rep: 1903
    Location: St Augustine Fl, Thailand

    brian eiland Senior Member

    Good News !

    I had heard of this great success in management strategies. CONGRADULATIONS :!:

    I just remembered posting this "Good News"
    http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/open-discussion/our-oceans-under-attack-27446-11.html#post324306
     
  7. brian eiland
    Joined: Jun 2002
    Posts: 5,067
    Likes: 216, Points: 73, Legacy Rep: 1903
    Location: St Augustine Fl, Thailand

    brian eiland Senior Member

    You will need a fair amount of sail to move this relatively big boat to an acceptable speed in moderate winds. If you don't have this capability, then the sailing mode won't get utilized enough....or maybe not at all. That would be a waste. In bigger winds you can then reduce sail, by simply rolling some up.

    No need for any fancy computer controls, maybe just benchmark of a few wind speeds and what max amount of sail you want to have out in those conditions. Sailing is not as difficult as many believe. Sure you continue to learn ever more nuances over time, but the basics are pretty easy to master....and best done by seat of the pants, hands on feel...not computers.

    Now that kite-assisted sailing...different animal, flying that kite in figure-8's...that needs computer controls.

    No more details at the moment...just the basic idea that this excellent power-cat design can be turned into a real nice motorsailer with great range and economy. Someone might what to put a fishing set-up in the rear. That can be engineered.

    Looks like 2x300hp.

    Look what the owner has to say:
    "And we love our big bad powercat who can cross the Atlantic at 20 knots, the Pacific at 12 knots or go half-way around the world at 8 knots. Call her a luxury Winnabago!"

    "Yes,Capt.J, the Lagoon can do this, but does she really qualify as a "passagemaker"" What is the Lagoon's 43 range? Can she cross the Atlantic at 20 knots? DOMINO burns 1.2 gpm at 20 knots, BTW. He he, never tried trolling at 20 knots, but very successful with Wahoo at 11 knots!"


    ...more discussion HERE
     

  8. plankton
    Joined: Jul 2008
    Posts: 23
    Likes: 1, Points: 0, Legacy Rep: 14
    Location: Jupiter, FL

    plankton Hang on, beeg wave !

    Now that was an interesting read, thank you, Brian. Those people have a pretty good idea of what they want and how to go about it. The Lagoon 43, though a nice boat, is not even in the same division. It is probably capable of crossing oceans, but ti wouldn't be my first choice. I'd happily take it from Europe to the Canaries, for example, but not horizontally across the pond !

    I'm actually in the process of starting some plans for a round North Atlantic trip in 2014/15 with the family. I had provisionally planed to begin looking either a displacement craft like a Nordhaven/Krogen or a catamaran. But a catamaran with a sail plan sounds even better.

    I'm not buying one - either borrow or steal. Grin.
     
Loading...
Forum posts represent the experience, opinion, and view of individual users. Boat Design Net does not necessarily endorse nor share the view of each individual post.
When making potentially dangerous or financial decisions, always employ and consult appropriate professionals. Your circumstances or experience may be different.