french style sailing barge

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  1. frank smith
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  2. gonzo
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    You have to start by specifying what kind of lifestyle is required. Many people live on a 22 foot sailboat and are happy. Others find a 50 footer confined.
     
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    I like the design in your pictures. Very cool. I wonder if all the shrouds are because the mast and boom are used to load and unload cargo (or were at some point). I built a Riverwalker (pictures on Buelher's webpage are my boat) and while I like it I wish I'd have built something like the French canal boats you have pictured for those days when I'd like to not listen to a motor.
     
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    I was thinking this might be the case with all those shrouds, that it's rigged up for a square sail. That looks like a pita.
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    You might have to just look at other boats and adapt their methods of construction to the shape you want and figure out how to build one that way.


    Here's a site...

    http://www.lesligeries.com/historique.php

    Go down to where it says...

    and click on the red spots that say 'voir'. That's the boat I just posted above. There's a bunch more in the other 'voirs'.

    I guess that site is a club with different news letters, here's another one...
    http://www.lesligeries.com/historique2-.php

    and another couple boats...

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    Another site...

    http://bruno.chanal.perso.sfr.fr/cnc/Caravane de Loire.html

    There is a bunch of stuff about this 'Civil War Scow' replica made by the 'Crystal River Boat Builders', which is an interesting boat. Google up 'civil war scow' in images.

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    Ah, makes sense, being as I would be going with a smaller mast and sail (leaning towards a square sail, I really like the looks of that) i could probably get away with less lines.
     
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    Anyone care to venture into comparisons and advantages of a square sail rig on a boat of this type?
     
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    Thanks,
    had looked at them before, but there were things i didnt like about the looks of them, but upon second look i can definately see how they can be adapted to what im looking for up top. AND, the study plans are cheap enough!
     
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    This one your build? very nice indeed!
     

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    Nice job, I like the house. What is she powered with?
     
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    Yeah, that's mine. Thanks. I started with an old Tohatsu 25hp. I used it for two years but it didn't have the power to maneuver reliably getting into and out of my slip which is on the Kalamazoo River and has both current and pretty strong winds. I switched to a Honda 40 last season when I started using it for charters and its a world of difference. Plenty of power, a bit more top speed, quiet, and uses almost no fuel.

    I wish there was a way to have a sail, but the house makes it impossible.

    That's why the French canal barges are so appealing.
     
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    I live on the boat mid-April to the end of October and it has plenty of space. Its mostly just me, but would be comfortable for two. For taking longer trips (like ICW) there is some advantage to having an enclosed wheel house, out of rain, sun, wind. It pounds in choppy water and gets uncomfortable for most people if the waves get over 3ft. But I' have no concerns on ICW, although my experience with waves is on Lake Michigan.
     
  14. frank smith
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    I have be thinking that windage will be an issue with any house built on a barge. Not sure how to get around that without ruining the openness of the house. The open front deck
    is great. I think I would push the house a far back as possible, The rear deck could be a short as 4' for motor well and gear. Might be nice to have a poop deck with out getting carried away, but simplicity of build would be first on my mind. Also stylistically I would want to preserve the basic working barge look. I do see a large round window or sliding door in the side, like on the the great lakes trawlers . the mast partner would be simple enough with an arrangement like the as29, the heel of the mast could be weighted to make lifting the mast easy. Rig?
     

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    Another issue is stability, with the height of the house it would need to be wide enough to carry sail , 10' ? How wide are these french sailing barges?
     
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