Freeship help

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by ConcreteCanoe10, Jul 14, 2008.

  1. ConcreteCanoe10
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    ConcreteCanoe10 New Member

    Hi,
    I am a third year civil engineer and co-caption of this years UMaine concrete canoe team. I am looking for some help with freeship. I have been using it for almost a year now and I have successfully drawn many canoes. However, I still do not understand a lot of the information FreeShip gives me about my boat, nor do I understand how to get the information I want.

    I would really like to be able to put in a wall thickness and a density. I am also interested in drag, top speed, and anything else that might be useful.

    Thanks!
     
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    Guest625101138 Previous Member

    Thickness - enter the data in the "Layer" information window.

    Drag - Freeship does not provide meaningful information on drag for a narrow craft like this. Better to use Michlet.

    Top Speed - how many paddlers and what power can they produce? You can assume a paddling efficiency of 60% if average. Maybe 70% if they have good technique.

    Rick W.
     
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    verbertus Junior Member

    Hi Rick,

    Are you saying that the Kaper resistance calc ( John Winters), which is one of the drag calculations in Freeship+, is giving no meaningful information?
     

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    Guest625101138 Previous Member

    The version of Freeship that I have does not give any results for certain block coefficients that can be found with very efficient slender hulls. Where I have got results they do not compare well with Michlet and I have found Michlet gives very reliable results for efficient hulls.

    I now have Delftship Pro and it has two empirical methods. They do work for high block coefficients. The results vary by 30% or more between the two methods in some situations. I am designing to within 3% using Michlet. The great benefit with Michlet is the in-built hull optimising routine Godzilla.

    The wave drag in Michlet is determined using an analytical method whereas the others use empirical method.

    Rick W.
     
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