Free design for amateur boatbuilders

Andrea: we sail in the Rio de la Plata, it'snt a good place for sail, because the wave is short, but the Pilgrim sail very good, we had 256 Nm at this moment without any problem.

 

Hi GIORGIS;
i'm planning a boat building..
Are you finish your k800 project ? Could you give me inform your project ?

Could you find answers your questions for keel and etc.

 

what the ....?

:?: :?: :?: :?:
unbelievable!

 

Hi ,
I am monitoring this topis and general idea of K800 for couple of years.
And, I belive there are few general problems:
- there is no more then one-and only russian/ukarine blue-hull K800 put on watter 9till the date
- sooo many people are attracted with word FREE, that is almaost painful (daj Prosinečki ne brukaj više svoju pomorsku naciju!). Theey think K800 is long, light, have some acomodation and thet is yacht, alows me to sail over ocean or catch the babe! Guys, just look at sail area, BWL and weight, and you will figured our that K800 is serius racer, not for first-timers.
- peoiple want plans on different lenguagues. Why everything must be in english? Use some web-translator, at least. And, finnaly all mesurments are in milimeters. Quite enough for technical reading people.
- I did not fgo throug all 18 pages of post, but this boat CAN NOT be build form just few sheets of paper, except you have some experience. if not, go to nerest bookstore (or web) and find some popular book about amateur boatbuilding in plywood.

-at last , it is obvious that more enthusiastic builders have problem: keel and rudder; realy Alik, you miss to add rudder shape , and kell and keel box material.I am almost sure that keel and keel box should be from stell or even lead (did not make volume-to- weight calculations, but for that sail plan...)

- and, if anyone from you go deeper in web, you can find that K800 is some amateur-build version of Alik's Pluto 800. And there, position and construction of keel is so obvious.

- and, I am with Alik 100% : for free it is too much to expect all details to be covered. Sercing over the webb wil help you to find many varios solution for keel retracting, rudder hardware etc.

- Personaly, I am more concerned in one: how she sails?

 

A lot of wrong statements.

There are more than ten boats built and launched to K800 design. Keel box material is specified - it is a pack of steel plates joined together. Some boats are built with bulbkeel - drawings also available.

Level of details of drawings is enough for amateur builder with experience, but not enough for 'dummy builder'. These designs are not intended for people with zero experience.

As with many amateur-built boats, the quality is not to top level, but some boats look really nice and built to high standard. They also sail well, though some 'family boats' use shortened mast.

People who really build the boats are getting the support, those who only dream and ask thousands of questions - no, sorry... So, continue Your monitoring

 

Wow, this was fast!
I thought that no one reads K800 Posts!

Despite your first sentence oposing to me, I am more than satisfied with answers!
first of all; one big AHA!
So, there are lot of boats build world wide!
Where are pictures! All fathers like to show pictures of own childs. Boatbuilders even more! Last evening, before send my post, I pass all 17 pages of this post looking for pictures ( one picture speaks more than 1000 words) .
But without result.

Did somone have idea to make some web-ring?
i.e Didi 26 builders have it, with lot of pictures, and links.

In other items, I think we speking same lenguague.
Sorry, I did not find any description of keel and keel box on original web-site.
To be sure, I just downloaded plans from site, again. I have also all availble documents: magazine article , blue-boat building pictures, even all available material about Pluto 800,

By the way, I did not see your comment about K800 and Pluto 800 simmilarity.
Are they "relatives" ?
And , finaly, I(we) will be happy to have some links to other K800 builders.

And, about building: it is not problem wheather I will monitor or build. But, prior to start anything, I (and many other potential builders) need to have at least, some reference.
Belive me it is not question of price-for-plans. All serious builders knows that price of plans is neglectable comparing to all other costs. But, I, and many other visitors of this site simply likes lines of K800. more than some other (available) plans.

I have feeling that you "marked" me as some web-site builder, not real one .
Maybe, but I do not know why I than make comaprison table between K800 and other competitors (based on available data), why I try to make lines for round bilge version (for strip planking i.e) etc,etc.

Again, I have feeling that there are so many people, just need some proof , to start building.
Like pictures, speed reference....


Your turn..

 

If You have Russian version from magazine, You should be able to read this:

Киль
Плавник киля изготавливается сварной конструкции – набирается из вертикальных пластин, либо литым. Общий вес плавника (без шверта) должен составить 300 кг. При необходимости, в корпус можно уложить дополнительный внутренний балласт.

Drawing of keel is available also.

For web-ring - K800 is not commercial project as Didi26, and I do not really have resources to coordinate K800 builders.

K800 and Pluto800 - the last one is purely racing boat, 2 units built. The red boat which one You can see on photos is active racer. There is nothing common in these two designs excerpt they are both 8m class.

 

Hello,
I'm building K800, could you give me some information about mobile keel (materials and weigth)
Thanks

 

these are some pictures of my k800 under construction, if someone is intersted to exchange information can contact me by e-mail: peppeprete@libero.it

 

One last thing, I made some changes to the original design. I'm making a bulb-keel moving (as attached drawings). In my opinion provides good stability (see curve in annex). if you have any comments or suggestions about the keel and the stability please contact me

 

Kavalier 800

Hello Alik

I am working on the Kavalier 800 desing.

I found your design on google and have already build the frame!
I am searching for some information on the keel, bulbkeel ore if you have any other designs on it I would be realy pleased if you would let me know.

I hope you can help me whit this. (Maybe webpages ore other)

Whit regards Jurjen Kroes

P.s. If anyone needs any information, who is building the Kavalier 800
I can send pic. and maybe give some info on this
(e-mail jurjenkroes@hotmail.com)

 

P590 - extended version

This is extended version of P590 built in Ukraine. Note extended transom with platform.

 

Very nice boat, and what' s the LOA and LWL? looking the picture I' think this boat has a keel ballast, that's right?
Alik nowadays my Pilgrim / Solymareño (LOA 21) Feet has 850 nautical milles and I very happy with it.
Tanks Alik, best regards Pedro

 

Is it possible to explain the info about this Pilgrim?

 

pedro have you design this boat or you maiking a modfication,
that' a nice boat congratulations .,i am looking to have comunication with
constructores of boats in uruguay ,i am born in uruguay especialista in aluminium/and steel constrution at the moment building aTUG BOAT aluminium
(remolcador)21fut ,will take with my one day on my return,your english is perfect to my ,email adres/leticiabairo@yahoo.com.au best regards C J BAIRO