Free design for amateur boatbuilders

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by Alik, Jul 21, 2003.

  1. GIORGIS_H
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    GIORGIS_H New Member

    Well, marine grade ply is the best you can use. Anything else may cause serious problems, especially when you will have to push the boat to its limits.
    If I was you, provided that you mentioned ocean sailing I wouldn't compromise with anything less than marine grade ply. This will keep high the selling value of your boat as well.
    My advice: don't get into a HUUUGE project like the k-800, unless you are sure you can find the proper meterials.

    Sorry, ALik, for bypassing you...
     
  2. GIORGIS_H
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    I noticed that only 8mm ply is used for the bulkheads and the chines as well. Is that right? Seems rather thin to me for the bulkheads. Is there any other alternative thickness (eg 10mm) than one might use without adding extreme weight to the yacht?
     
  3. Whytte
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  4. GIORGIS_H
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    GIORGIS_H New Member

    kavalier project just started

    Hi there Alik and crew!

    The "kavalier" project has just started. The first step is the 1:10 scale balsa-wood model, that will help me understand the geometry of the plans and maybe any problems as well.

    Pictures will follow soon enough.

    There are however certain problems and I need some answers.
    1) I don't have any idea about the keel weight, material, and construction, neither about how it is fitted to the hull. PLEEEEASE HELP!
    2) Is it OK, if I use ply instead of pine for the bulkheads? What should be the thickness of the ply?

    thanks in advance...
     
  5. thailandboy2004
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    thailandboy2004 Junior Member

    hi there..i noticed you said you are a boat designer right? if so could you design some plans for me for a thai stlye water taxi boat? the long boat type..i could pay you..please contact me if possible..tom
     
  6. ribfreak
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    So I`ll be the 1001st to ask the most stupid questions in this thread over and over again?

    "Hi Alik, can you please send me all the boat plans you`ve ever drawn because I want to build myself one! ... and can you include detailed pricings because I need to figure out why I truly can`t afford one! ... and can you send me nice coloured pictures because I rather like to daydream than actually do something! .... and could you send me a detailed building instructions in Suaheli because I`m too stupid and/or lazy to figure out something by myself! ....and can you be my personal boat designer during the next couple of years for free? ... or can you build the boat for me? .... and can you wipe my stupid a.. every now and then?"

    When I read through all the posts and stupid questions in this thread I doubt that there`s even one person in here who`s really ever done something other than just posting some bull... in boat building forums!

    I can`t read one single word in russian but it`s not necessary to understand the plans anyway. If you`re not even able to figure out how to build this simple plywood shoebox you better should stay away from boatbuilding entirely- save your money and buy a boat from your local dealer. Hopefully you`re better captains than craftsmen....
     
  7. PsiPhi
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    PsiPhi Newbie

    Do I detect a small note of sarcasm?
     
  8. mdatrpz
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    Alik:

    How does that pivot keel raise/lower.

    Of course, send the CAD drawings if you feel like it to the 1002 person who has requested them (md@rpzdesign.com)

    Cheers.
     
  9. lewisboats
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    lewisboats Obsessed Member

    a LINK to these plans has been posted a couple of DOZEN times here...Please make the effort to READ the posts before asking for someone to DO the work for you.

    Steve (who has posted the link MORE than once in this thread)!
     
  10. PsiPhi
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    PsiPhi Newbie

    I had a look at the plans for the Pilgrim, it's still high on my lists of which boat I would like to build.
    Knowing very little about boats or boatbuilding, in fact as a totally and utter newbie, is it rude to point out a little deficiency in the plans?
    Unless I am missing something, there's no instructions on how to use them.
    For an experienced boat biulder this may not be a problem, but as the plans are aimed at novice home builders don't you think a lot more would get built if there were some instructions?

    OK - Please - Don't Flame Me - I'm not asking Alik to come and build it for me :D Read the rest of this post before reacting.
    Unlike most people, I have read this entire thread, end-to-end, I even managed to find and download the plans all by myself - in English!!

    It is a wonderful and generous thing that we have been given these plans for free - we should return that favour to the designer.
    Everyone who has built one of these boats, or who has good boat building experience, or who can understand the plans as they are, should contribute to a set of guidelines for the really amateur (like me) builder. Like an Open Source software project - for those who are familiar with the concept - many people contribute their time and effort (just because they can) and everyone benefits.
    As I fit none of the catagories above I would be happy to contribute instead the effort of collating the experience and knowlege of others into a document that could be used as instructions to build one of these boats. I even have a Russian friend who might translate the results back into Russian if I ask him - might cost me a bottle of Vodka, but hey...

    Instead of asking for more lets give a little back.
    Anyone interested?
     
  11. cx4dad
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    cx4dad Junior Member

    A nice sail boat

    Alik:
    the Pilgrim 590 is a nice boat, my version of Pilgrim is Pilgrim 635 name Solymareño-
    I have many pictures at http://cx4dad.hi5.com/.-
    Solymareño was launched the past 17/2/2008 , Uruguay South America.-
    Thank you for the desing.
    Regards Pedro
    cx4dad@montevideo.com.uy
     

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  12. PsiPhi
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    PsiPhi Newbie

    Pedro
    Wow! A beautiful version of this boat.
     
  13. pesciolino
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    hello pedro,
    to convert your p590 in a p635, you have only extended the bow? or you have made other modification.

    thank you for replies, if any.

    buon vento...
     
  14. cx4dad
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    Dear Pesciolino;
    the modification was only extended the bow and the center board was changed from 10 mm to 12.7 mm (one half inch) about 80 kg of final weight...
    Please look at http://cx4dad@hi5.com the second page of pilgrim 590.
    my mail is cx4dad@montevideo.com.uy....no problem for send all pictures for you... and for send my version of:


    Alik:

    How does that pivot keel raise/lower.

    Of course, send the CAD drawings if you feel like it to the 1002 person who has requested them (md@rpzdesign.com)

    Cheers.


    I have not problems with the box of centerborard... the rudder is very good

    whell my friend Pesciolino, I' m waiting for your reply... but repeat the Pilgrim 590 it's a nice boat.
    regard Pedro and sorry for my english-.--
     

  15. apalazzi
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    apalazzi Junior Member

    So, how is the pilgrim at sea?

    Bye

    Andrea
     
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