Forced to cut the umbilical..

Excuse me........Alan..hate to mispell names.............

While I'm here, how old are you?

 

Erie canal, I think. Carry a motorcycle on the boat. Most of the canal is free, no charge for locks. The reason is that a long time ago the State of New York thought it would make for more fair competition with the railroads.
The law is still in effect. Lots of lakes and rivers along the way, from Canada to the Gulf of Mexico. Shoal draft motorsailer, maybe thirty ft., with a wheelhouse. Cheap at low speed, maybe use vegetable oil for fuel.

Alan

 

52 of course. Hahahaha!

 

Alan,

My wife and I looked SERIOUSLY into this 'escape' in the mid 90's. We met people who were 'out of the system' while still living right here. They drove cars with no license plates, just a plastic plate that read "FREEDOM!" They explained that there is no obligation to be in the system, only the APPEARANCE of an obligation.

http://www.truthintaxation.us/?tax_inform=losingTrials

The biggest tax loophole of all, it seems, is that the average citizen has been bamboozled into paying a tax that was supposed to be only for government employees.

The people we met told us how both parties sold us out in 1912 & 1916 creating the Federal Reserve Bank and the unconstitutional (illegal) money system we now have here in the US, a system which has fomented wars by funding all sides while bilking Americans of the value of their money by engineered inflation, from which they profit. They showed us that the 'national debt' has NOTHING TO DO with the annual budget deficit; that the national debt can NEVER be repaid, our children having been sold into a kind of economic slavery.

Politicians, of course, love the system since it gives them virtually unlimited money (and power) compared to what the US Constitution actually allows them. Think about all of the things that have been 'outlawed', like recreational drugs, gambling, prostitution. When did this all happen? Before the Fed? No way!

Think about all of the US foreign entanglements and intrigues. When did they begin?

It's all tied together! The nexus of jurisdiction is what you need to understand. Eligibility to receive benefits from the US socialist system (socialism for profit, how American ) comes with a HUGE price ITO loss of freedoms. How else could you swindle a free people (as we once were) into giving up both their personal and economic freedom? And you need not receive any benefits ever to become obligated; Eligibility IS the benefit!

And the profits from the US socialist taxation/banking system fund the huge unelected, unaccountable corporate shadow government that actually rules. Without that money, the beast would die. The really tragic part is that it's all VOLUNTARY.

After careful consideration we decided that it was just too big an elephant to eat, even 'one bite at a time' as our emancipated friends would say. We are still in the system, envying those that have escaped.

Maybe someday...

Jimbo

 

It surprises most people that the Federal Reserve is not a government entity.
But rather than go on comiserating, which I could, as what you're saying is entirely true, I would rather figure out what one could do within that system, which depends on the motivations of the masses, and might very well forget the occasional renegade, were he to know how to slip through the cracks...

A.

 

Alan,

I think we both came to the same conclusion. It's better to be a quiet, highly skilled operator within the system rather than than to declare yourself 'out of the system' (enemy of the system, actually) and thereafter live in a self-imposed exile.

jimbo

 

I thought the idea of breaking free was to have a stress free life.

I wouldnt have thought living within the sytem but not being part of it, to avoid driving licensing and tax and everything else, would be.

Looking out of cracks in the curtains and running away from the post man is no life. Infact its silly.

This type of life is only available to people with nerves of steel.

Then when you get caught, and you will, you will be in jail.

Although some have tried this in UK it just doesnt work ,perhaps the vastness of America might make it easier.

And when you get old and need the system it wont be there for you, just a lot of questions that you will not be able to answer. Certainly not without incriminating yourself.

Sailing round the world --is a pretty good one.

Oh and heres another thing while you think about it your lifes ticking away.

Never look at the clock it goes faster ---tick tock-

This is something I say to myself. Am I enjoying my life to the best of my abilities.
And what would I like to do RIGHT now and whats stoping me from doing it.

And no its not complicated, or difficult, or "I cant'

What amazes me is how much time we waste, days years even, yet on our death we saviour every minute.

 

jack,,,,,,your scaring me ,,but your right ,,,longliner

 

Forced to cut etc

Grommit - just bear in mind the words of that fine old Scottish navigator - Sir Walter MacRaleigh: "Ah, but a man's ambition should exceed his grasp - or what's a heaven for..."

Unfortunately he sobered up before I could ask him the meaning.....

 

Grommit,

Sounds like you're not happy with your current situation and have an idea of how to change it. I think that happens to everyone no matter what country they live. Some, like you, want change enough to go and do it. In my opinion, it's kind of foolish to say your situation is more common in one country than another. I've lived in several places. It seems to me life is about what you make of it. Not necessarily you're geographic location.

Anyway, perhaps a year-long "test" is in order? Nothing stopping you from doing that. If you find you like it keep going. If not, go back home, switch coasts, go north, go south, lots of places to make a living and enjoy life.

 

There's nothing to having a drivers license. However, there's no need to have a bank account. One picks his state and lives there long enough to get residency, along with the benefits of that residency.
$800.00 a year for full coverage on a motor home--- I checked. Pay in advance.
No taxable income... I'll leave that one to your imagination.
No utilities, no taxes, except those which apply to vehicle registration and usage.
No real estate (real estate is not really owned anyway. Town, State, and Federal government are the real owners). We pay taxes, which could be called "rental", since a clause allows them to take it away if we don't pay income or property taxes. The IRS only negotiates unpaid taxes with non-land-owners, because they don't have them over a barrel. True also of legal judgements. Most medical income in the USA is a result of the sale of real estate. Everything you've ever worked for all your life, to pay for a few weeks in the hospital.
I would have no real estate in my name.
I would only deal in cash.
I could live on $150.00 a week. I can do most anything related to the mechanical trades--- boat work, rough carpentry, electrical, plumbing, gas, tile, sheetrock, paint, roof, cabinetry, design/drafting, etc., etc.. A half day of work a week at the going rate is all I need to find, on average.
This is sustainable. My feeling is that going to sea, for me, would involve a lot of large chunks of time on land back in the system, working to keep the boat. Most time would be spent in port, paying their fees, or anchoring miles off and worrying about theft. Nothing is simple. The best we can do is to simplify enough and enjoy our lives enough to make a good comprimise.


Alan

 

If winter is not one of the things you're looking to escape, a less ambitious (than Palawan) destination might be Nova Scotia. Then there's Bermuda, The Azors, & Madeira.

I think you're right in suggesting that we don't know what the future holds for the United States; so there's no reason to burn your bridges. There are plenty of like-minded people in the Northeast, and in other parts of the country. But a cruise to Lunenburg & Halifax this summer in order to connect with our northern neighbor could only be good for the soul.... and who knows where it will lead?

I'd also note that I've come to know a lot of Dominicans living here in New York, and they're a decent lot. A visit to their home country might be enjoyable (esp. if you know a little Spanish).