Force 7 Ocean Wave

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  1. CarlosK2
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    - I think ... if we put a "rear wing" on it ... we would transform it into a Formula 1.

    The funny thing about the case is that the honest 'Seat 600' reached a top speed of 20 knots in a tremendous surf controlled by a clumsy autopilot with little more brain than a crystal radio.
     
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    (Here I had put a music video from 1975 created today)

    Music that never existed, this phenomenon that has just been born with artificial intelligence is surprising.

    My fantasy is a MiniTransat type sailboat that would have been possible in 1979.

    A small step forward following American Express

    https://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/Histoire des Minis/49.htm
     
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    Hull: 10 mm Plywood Okume, and i think the frames (and the deck) could be made of 15 mm Paulownia and thus not waste the grain orientation, and we would achieve the objective of 400 kg

    Pogo 1
    139-144-155 D/L
    WindSurf 599
    127-131-144 D/L

    Fiber

    Bottom: 800 g/sqm
    Topside: 400 g/sqm (500 g/sqm)*
    Deck: 200 g/sqm

    *: Tejidos https://www.castrocompositesshop.com/es/81-tejidos

    Rudder, StaySail Boom, MainSail Boom

    Ash

    Bowsprit

    WindSurfer Mast
     
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    - A sailboat to enjoy. You're completely crazy. What's next? Adding a motor? You're ruining our glorious tradition of wooden boats and iron men.

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    Motor

    A) Honda 2.3
    B) Honda 2.3 Copy
    C) Haswing Protruar 3.0 12 volt

    PROTRUAR BRUSHLESS MOTOR 3.0 12V https://haswingoutdoor.com/products/protruar-brushless-motor-3-0-12v

    D) Protruar 3.0 24 volt
    E) Protruar 5.0 24 volt

    In any case 2 x 100 w solar panel, because one port and one starboard

    (You can't imagine how many hours I've wasted trying to fit 1 fuxxx solar panel on the deck)



    (The little Suzuki is more powerful; but the Honda is my favorite)
     
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    I have seen an 80 ton Baltic Trader towed cross an anchorage by an inflatabubble with a 2.5hp Yamaha.
     
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  6. CarlosK2
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    Let's assume a case: crossing the Barbuda lagoon against a strong trade wind.

    (And a 24-volt battery weighs 20 kilos)

    The most logical thing to me seems to be plan A and plan B.
     
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    Anchor

    Richard Danforth-type anchors are magnificent and very inexpensive.

    But with their very long blades, they don't fit: the anchor hangs angled at the bow on a steel rail, and since it's a very small and light boat, it only has a line without a chain, and the anchor can be lowered and raised without stepping on the deck.

    I've had a Mantus M1 for years, and I'm very very happy: it's a magnificent anchor, although it's expensive.

    Mantus Anchors: The best setting boat anchor https://www.mantusmarine.com/mantus-anchors/?srsltid=AfmBOopv8v9WM9SOQ82T3Lp2zBgAQurnwDVxb8AnO67o8HAgrbx3FwAT&v=28886f13f578
     
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    I think it comical that this lengthy thread is mostly you agreeing with yourself.
     
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    If you feel the need to attack people, I suggest you go to the WBF and have at it.
     
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    Since when did radar reflectors get so expensive? I always fitted Firdell Blipper as i was consistently told i had a good "contact" by watch keepers on large commercial shops. Perhaps an AIS transponder is the way forward.
     
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    Yes, all these devices aren't worth their price.

    It's mostly to maintain symmetry with the VHF antenna, haha

    It's a large reflector, and I found a very interesting study, and it sort of works. There aren't many options; the active one is very expensive.

    (The bitter and ignorant on duty deserves a psychiatric examination)
     
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    Right. I owe an apology.
     
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    With the radar reflector and the 5-watt all-round white light, we have reached the end.

     

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    1 Ton
    Plywood Epoxy WindSurfer
    Still photo at the moment of takeoff

    0.60 Froude
    8.8 knots

    Bow +2.4° Up

    A: 3696 Newtons
    B: 1023
    W: 2100
    H: 5227
    D: 1438 Newtons

    Residual resistance calculated by the model: 898 Newtons

    Residual resistance calculated by the last Delft polynomial formula: 897 Newtons

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