For those who carry arms on their boats-

Hi,
that's an interesting and pretty original point of view, I'd say. By reading it, one might arrive to a conclusion that not a single one armed or security force in the world has got it right. They should all immediately start substituting ther automatic rifles with handguns, to increase their chances of shooting the enemy. Without the bipod or tripod, which the soldiers notoriously use each time they fire a burst of hot lead...

Not related to the above, here comes an interesting reading about some weapon-related security facts: http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/w...guns-and-mass-shootings-in-the-united-states/
I find it very informative and equidistant from both parties (pro and anti guns).

Cheers

 

Security forces fire in short bursts to prevent their weapons from jamming. Those who don't usually end up dead or captured, with their jammed weapon.

 

All security and military experts in these threads...

 

there is no such thing as a "100 round assault riffles" not even the military carry 100 round magazines. You really show your ignorance when you repeat such non-sense.

I am reassured when people use fire arms designed "for killing people" when those being killed are criminals. If we had no firearms designed for killing people than none would be useful for self defense, none would be useful for law enforcement, none would be useful for the military. The most effective way to stop an armed criminal from harming me or my family is a with a gun "designed for killing people". There is NOT a real man in the USA, no matter how liberal and peace loving, who would not wish for a gun "designed for killing people" during a home invasion robbery where his wife and children are exposed to such criminals. A few years ago a few miles from where I live a whole family was wiped out when a gang invaded and tied them up, ransacked the house, than put a gun to the head of every member of the family before they left.

A statement like the one you made above has no meaningful purpose, it is like saying that knives are only designed for cutting.

While you in your country might trust your inept government to protect you, we have no such illusions. Our basic civil rights in this country is about liberty and freedom. That means we have a basic human right to self defense and freedom from tyranny. Right now all over the world there are struggles against tyranny by defenseless populations. Unlike every other country in the world, the United States have NEVER had a coup or hostile take over either from within or without, we have NEVER been invaded byh a foreign power with the intent to subjugate us, and this is why. It is a little known fact of history that Japan had even considered invading the west cost of the USA to try and get the US Navy out of the South Pacific, the deiced against it because the average US citizen was too well armed and would fight to defend their homeland (unlike the unarmed and poverty stricken areas of China and Korea that they had invaded, ***** and brutalized).

smugly make ignorant statements all you want, tolerate the inept soft tyranny where you live. You do not make yourself sound intelligent by repeating such ignorant statements. The next time you or any of your neighbors get invaded again, you will only have the USA to come over with our guns "deigned for killing people" to liberate you AGAIN from your folly.

the reason the authors of our constitution put a guarantee of the right to keep and bear arms, is they knew that the only way to stop history from repeating itself, at least in this country, was to make sure that the people stay armed. You have no such guarantee.

 

Err emmm..


Aurora Colorado Police Chief Dan Oates says that the shooter used a .223-caliber assault-style rifle with a 100-round drum magazine.

Honest, I swear, Im not making this up....and who you calling ignorant.
Read the news.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...style-rifle-with-100-round-drum-magazine?lite

 

You are correct.

I toured the GSG-9 facility in Germany, one of the worlds leading anti-terrorist forces.

Our guide, a GSG-9 veteran, and my friend, commented they only shoot twice per person.

Each round delivered to the head, in succession.

Oh, and they have three impressive Zodiacs, made in Canada under my scrutiny.

This is a boat forum, right?

 

Hi daquiri,
No, No, not handguns, they are useless beyond 30 feet. Bolt action weapons. Very few "assault weapons" have bipods, the only one I can think of is the French Issue FAMAS.
In the 70's NATO began a switch towards the smaller 5.56mm, 0.223 round. Which is smaller, lighter, and most importantly cheaper.
The British used the 7.62mm 0.308in round until the 80's.
With the advent of Kevlar body armour, the 5.56mm is not deadly beyond 500 yards.

Firing bursts is a completely pointless exercise as the barrel will move and you will miss your target and waste ammunition. If you have to do this to stop your weapon from jamming then it is a piece of junk.

The current trend in sniper rifles is to extremely large calibres 0.50in and these are deadly to beyond 1km.

The current world record for aimed bolt-action fire was set in 1914 by a musketry instructor in the British Army — Sergeant Instructor Snoxall — who placed 38 rounds into a 12" target at 300 yards (270 m) in one minute with a 0.303 Lee Enfield.

If every soldier in a platoon is hitting 38 targets every minute with 0.303 ammo then a battle will not last particularly long.

Not all semi automatic weapons are junk, there are very many that are excellent, however, ask anybody who has had anything to do with an SA 80 and they will tell you it is rubbish.

 

6 billion dollars in gun sales in USA in 2012 ?!?!?

 

The biggest problem in the u s is tv. To much rubbish getting fed to the nutters. In aus if we get attacked we use our fists, anyone know what they are, give the attacker a good belting and most times he will run away, if not wack him with a lump of 4 x2

 

The USA is one of the largest exporters of weapons. It is a thriving industry.

 

Whitepointer: Would that be a 89mm X 38mm?

 

Its true...citizens are overwhelmed by TV talking heads pushing special interest agendas.

It may not be possible to solve this problem.

Ignorance and tribalism will get even worse.

 

The murder of 20 real young students and 8 adults just 3 weeks ago is what has brought these new restrictions on assult weapons to the front page. All those deaths were caused by two (2) 9 mm hand guns, not an assult rifle. They found an assult rifle in the trunk of the killers mothers car which he stole after killing her. Just info.

 

Sadly, it will get worse before it gets better.

 

You must have different data.

I read

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/de...cticut-school-shooting-assault-rifle-20121216

" Lanza, 20, fired a Bushmaster .223 semiautomatic rifle to kill many of the 20 children and six adults at the school Friday, Connecticut State Police Lt. J. Paul Vance said.

He used a Glock 10-millimeter handgun to shoot himself in the head. He also carried at Sig Sauer pistol.
A shotgun, the type of which was not identified, was found in the trunk of Lanza’s car outside the school. "

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