For those who carry arms on their boats-

So...WHATS THE POINT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You wasted money because your arms are useless . In the Future you are obliged to sail back to your point of original entry and spend many hours waiting for the police to return your guns ..
Returning to your port of entry could mean sailing one thousand miles backwards.

 

When you leave port you claim them back, You leave port even on a domestic journey.

You don't do much of this do you? Yet you say it takes many hours --No it does'nt.

There are places where they would be surprised if you did not have guns, and probably would not believe you. They cant help you at sea ,--they know that.

They pat you on your back and say "good luck",

To be honest its getting better, I don't have any any more.

Ive drawn a gun in anger and I wont ever ever ever do that again.

If it means I have to be a Nun and live up a mountain I wont do that again. What I was going to do was despicable. These people that walk with a gun are mental, you can not do this and draw a gun on some one --if you think you can your very much mistaken ----or your in need of help.

If you can draw a gun and point it at some one,--- and then pull a trigger,-- which lets face it that is what you got it out for -- then your reading this in prison or a mental hospital where you need to be.

 

They dont keep your guns in the customs office they send them to a armory. As you clear out they send a courier to retrieve the guns. In some countries you pay for this courier and it always takes a long time.

And dont try the ..I will just not declare them routine. A few years ago I rented my berth out to an America...John. Big ketch..80ft. For some reason the Guardia Civil took interest in him, searched his boat with sniffer dogs , found guns and threw him in prison. I could care less but since his boat was in my berth, crime scene taped off and evidence for trial, it could not be moved. I could not return to my berth for 4 months while the prosecution took place

Dam *****.

 

I did not say they kept them at customs,--- did I.

I also said counties vary. In Singapore I took then in a taxi . In Malaysia they just want to know where they were.

Its so long ago I cant remember. Thailand I think I just did'nt bother on advice from Customs not to declare of they would have to do more paper work.

I asked one guy what he put on the form under arms --he said he wrote "sufficient"

Good ploy that because a Thai would not know what the word sufficient meant.

 

Sample of gun laws.


The Bahamas: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_p...s/cis_989.html
Tourists who arrive by private boat are required to declare firearms (and every round of ammunition) to Bahamian Customs, and leave firearms on the boat (in a secure compartment) while in The Bahamas. In the event of your being boarded by Customs or the Royal Bahamas Defence Force, the information on your cruising permit will be checked carefully against your actual supply. Ammo’ must match cruising permit exactly.

The Turks and Caicos: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_p.../cis_1048.html
The importation of all firearms (including those charged with compressed air) to the Turks and Caicos is strictly forbidden without prior approval in writing from the Commissioner of Police. U.S. citizens may contact the Turks and Caicos Customs Department at (649) 946-2867 for specific information regarding customs requirements.
In practice, your guns will be confiscated for the duration of your stay, and returned immediately prior to your departure. Once you’ve retrieved your firearms, you’ll be expected to depart immediately. Spear guns, Hawaiian slings, controlled drugs, and *********** are also illegal.

The Dominican Republic: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_p.../cis_1103.html
The DR is one of those places that confiscates your weapons, requires you to check in and out of every port, and allows cruising yachts to stop at only a few ports.

U.S. Virgin Islands:
Firearms must be declared and need a permit. For further information on firearms write to the Commissioner of Public Safety, St Thomas, USVI.

British Virgin Islands: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_p.../cis_1079.html
Firearms must be bonded and are held by the proper authorities until time of departure. Contact BVI Customs & Immigration at (1)(284) 494-3475, the Embassy of the United Kingdom in Washington, D.C. or one of the UK''s consulates in the United States for specific information regarding customs requirements.

Anguilla: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_p.../cis_1107.html
You need a permit to own any gun on Anguilla. Firearms should be licensed and must be securely locked on board, under the captain's control only.

Antigua & Barbuda:
Antigua and Barbuda customs authorities may enforce strict regulations concerning temporary importation into or export from Antigua and Barbuda of items such as firearms.
Fire arms must be declared and if customs are satisfied that they are safely secured, you may be allowed to keep them on board.

St. Kitts & Nevis:
Firearms must be declared and usually are bonded on board.

Guadelupe:
Non-French nationals on a tourist visit to Guadeloupe for less than 185 days can import two hunting guns and 100 cartridges for each. Other firearms are not permitted. All weapons should be declared.

Dominica:
It is illegal to take firearms into or out of Dominica. Don't even think of it - Dominican jails are very basic


Martinique:
Firearms and ammunition are a heavily restricted item
Prior approval required from the French Ministry of Defense to import firearms. (Import permit issued by Directorate General of Customs, bureau D 3.)
‘Noonsite says “Firearms must be declared.”

St. Lucia:
Licensed firearms must be declared and are subject to immigration and police regulations.
Firearms must be declared, but no action is taken if staying less than three days, after which they must be sealed on board by a customs officer. Yachts temporarily imported will have weapons held by customs in Castries or possibly by police if a longer permit is obtained.
Undeclared and unlicenced firearms will be seized by the authorities.

St. Vincent & The Grenadines:
Licensed firearms must be declared and are subject to immigration and police regulations. An application must be made to the Commissioner of Police for a local licence. Undeclared and unlicenced firearms will be seized by the authorities. Firearms must be declared on arrival, and can be sealed on board, but if a yacht has no suitable locker, the firearms will be held in the custody of customs or police until departure.

Grenada:
Firearms must be declared to customs and will be sealed on board in a proper locker or kept ashore in custody until departure. A receipt will be issued by the police.

Barbados: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_p.../cis_1022.html
Firearms must be licensed and declared immediately to customs on arrival. They will be kept in custody until departure. Penalties for non-declaration or possessing an unlicensed firearm are severe.

Trinidad & Tobago:
Firearms and ammunition must be declared on arrival and will be taken by the customs boarding officer and placed in custody at the central police station. Requests for their return prior to departure must be made to customs at least 48 hours before clearance; failure to do so may result in a delay to departure or departure without the firearms. To keep firearms in your possession during the stay, it is necessary to apply to the Commissioner of Police for a licence.
Venezuela:

Columbia: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_p.../cis_1090.html
Colombian law prohibits tourists and business travelers from bringing firearms into Colombia. The penalty for illegal importation and/or possession of firearms is three to ten years in prison.

Mexico: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_p...s/cis_970.html
Vessels entering Mexican waters with firearms or ammunition on board must have a permit previously issued by the Mexican Embassy, or a Mexican consulate. Mariners do NOT avoid prosecution by declaring their weapons at the port of entry. Before traveling, mariners who have obtained a Mexican firearms permit should contact Mexican port officials to receive guidance on the specific procedures used to report and secure weapons and ammunition. Entering Mexico with a firearm, some kinds of knives or even a single round of ammunition is illegal, even if the firearm or ammunition is taken into Mexico unintentionally. The Mexican government strictly enforces its laws restricting the entry of firearms and ammunition along all land borders and at air and seaports. Violations have resulted in arrests, convictions, and long prison sentences for U.S. citizens.

Cuba: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_p.../cis_1097.html
If a yacht is staying a long time in one of the marinas, firearms will be impounded by the Coast Guard (Guarda Frontera). If the yacht is cruising along the coast, firearms must be declared every time the boat checks in at a new port, and may be confiscated until departure, or alternatively sealed on board, placed under the responsibility of the captain. The seals and arms will be inspected when clearing out.

American vessels seeking to travel to Cuba must obtain a temporary sojourn license from the Department of Commerce. Temporary sojourn licenses are NOT available for pleasure boaters.

Cayman Islands: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_p.../cis_1084.html
Firearms are held by customs for the duration of the yacht's stay, unless a yacht is fitted with a proper safe, which can be sealed. Spearguns and their parts are prohibited, and possession of spearguns or pole spears or Hawaiian slings, are illegal. These must be declared to customs at the first port of arrival, and will normally be taken off the boat and put under bond until departure.

Jamaica: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_p.../cis_1147.html
The Department of State warns U.S. citizens against taking any type of firearm or ammunition into Jamaica without authorization from the Ministry of National Security. Entering Jamaica with a firearm or even a single round of ammunition is serious crime that can result in a long prison sentence.

Noonsite says: Firearms must be declared and will be kept in the custody of customs until departure.

Steve Pavlidis (author of ‘Exuma Cruising Guide’ and others says: “...You are permitted to bring guns into Jamaica and if the Customs officer feels that the locker you keep them in is secure, you will be allowed to keep them aboard. If he feels the locker is not secure, he will take your weapons, give you a receipt, and deposit said weapons with the local police until you leave. The only problem you have here is when you DON'T declare your firearms and they find them.”
For more information on Steve’s excellent cruising guide series, and more, goto: http://www.islandhopping.com/

Bermuda:
All firearms and ammunition must be declared on arrival to the customs officer, who will either impound them until departure or seal them on board. Firearms include spear guns, Verey pistols and flare guns.

France:
France has stringent regulations on firearms and ammunition . As a rule, firearms which have no legitimate sporting or recreational use are not permitted entry into France.
French firearms regulations are a bit complicated, so see the French Embassy site: http://www.info-france-usa.org/intheus/customs/6000.asp
The French West Indies: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_p.../cis_1746.html
The French West Indies consists of the islands of Martinique, Guadeloupe, St. Martin (the French side) and St. Barthelemy.

United Kingdom:
Firearms and ammunition, including gas pistols and similar weapons, may not be imported.

Spain:
Firearms must be declared.

Italy:
Firearms must be declared on arrival. The penalty for non-declaration is imprisonment.

Greece:
Firearms must be declared.

Denmark:
Firearms must be declared.

Netherlands:
All firearms must be licensed, and a copy of the licence carried. There are restrictions concerning signalling pistols. Very type flare pistols must be accompanied by a firearms certificate issued in the country of origin.

Norway:
Firearms must be declared. All firearms must have a licence from the country of origin. Firearms must be re-exported within three months, if not an application for a permit must be made.

French Polynesia:
Firearms and ammunition must be declared. If staying less than three days they can be kept on board, otherwise must be bonded by the authorities in each island until departure.

Philippines:
Firearms must be declared to customs on arrival.

Austrailia:
Firearms must be declared on entry. All military-type firearms (greater than .22), machine guns, pistols, revolvers, ammunition, as well as flick knives and knuckledusters are prohibited imports, and will be sealed on board or taken into custody at the first port of entry. Arrangements can be made to transport them to the port of departure if sufficient notice is given of that port and the date of departure. Sporting rifles and shotguns may be kept on board if a permit is obtained from the police.

New Zealand:
Firearms must be declared to customs, and are normally kept in police custody until departure. If there is an onboard safe for firearms, this may be approved by the police.

Indonesia:
Firearms may be left on board if they can be locked and sealed. If not, they will be taken ashore and bonded until the yacht leaves.

Malaysia:
Firearms must be declared and then sealed by the customs officer. A permit for firearms is required.

Sri Lanka:
Firearms must be declared on arrival and held in custody by customs until departure. One must ensure that a receipt is obtained for the firearms.

Yemen:
Firearms must be declared.

Somalia:
Firearms will be retained.
The waters in the vicinity of the Somali coast, both south and west of the Horn of Africa, are now considered to be dangerous for both commercial shipping and small boats. The US authorities have issued a warning advising vessels to stay at least 30 miles off the African coast. The east coast is just as dangerous. Boats are strongly advised to avoid passing between the island of Socotra and the African mainland, while those approaching from the east through the Gulf of Aden should stay well clear of both the Somali and Yemeni coasts, as both are considered to be dangerous. The best approach is to sail in convoy with other yachts and try to be in permanent contact with someone ashore who knows one's position at all times and could alert the authorities in an emergency.

Maldives:
Firearms must be declared on arrival and will be confiscated until departure. One must make sure one gets a receipt. One should have a firearms permit, otherwise on departure one has to go to the Ministry of Defence with the receipt to get approval for the return of the firearms. Any firearms and ammunition not declared will be seized. Firearms without a licence or official documents could be confiscated; this includes spear guns.

India:
Certain firearms and weapons are prohibited, and those permitted require a Possession Licence. All arms and ammunition will be sealed by customs and treated as bonded goods onboard the vessel.

Egypt:
A list of firearms, with their type and details, must be handed to the authorities on arrival.

Madagascar
Firearms may be removed for the duration of the stay.

Seychelles:
All arms and ammunition, including spearguns, must be handed to the police or customs on arrival and a receipt obtained. The bonded firearms will be returned on departure.

South Africa:
Firearms will be sealed by customs on board if this is possible. Otherwise firearms will be removed and bonded until departure.



Canada: http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/

 

Lot of words to say what I said.

 

Careful when you go to Mexico. When you declare at customs, they take you to jail.

 

Read the post above posted by yourself --it does'nt say that.

Your a little prone to exaggeration and embellishment arent you?

There is procedure, Mexico insist you follow that, Other countries do the same wether as difficult or not, all have requirements.

Calm down, stop squalking and read the requirements,-- fill in the forms correctly, obtain the required license and pay the required fees. It does work.

There is a difference between importing and declaring. Do you know what that is.

 

for all the strictness of Mexico firearms regulations, it does not stop their criminals from getting them, and than ravaging their defenseless population. Tens of thousands killed by their drug gangs. Same is true with Columbia.

 

Yes it does.

"Vessels entering Mexican waters with firearms or ammunition on board must have a permit previously issued by the Mexican Embassy, or a Mexican consulate."

 

He's talking about a specific incident, where an ex-Marine wanted to take an antique shotgun into Mexico. Our guys told him to take it to the Mexican Customs in that building over there, and fill out the paperwork. The Mexicans arrested him instead, threw him in prison, and held him for months while threatening to put him away for years on charges of illegally bringing firearms into the country. It took some heavy government pressure to get him turned loose.

You've obviously never had any dealings with Mexican officials, have you? They're unpredictable, and sometimes completely irrational.

 

Mexico: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_p...s/cis_970.html
Vessels entering Mexican waters with firearms or ammunition on board must have a permit previously issued by the Mexican Embassy, or a Mexican consulate. Mariners do NOT avoid prosecution by declaring their weapons at the port of entry. Before traveling, mariners who have obtained a Mexican firearms permit should contact Mexican port officials to receive guidance on the specific procedures used to report and secure weapons and ammunition. Entering Mexico with a firearm, some kinds of knives or even a single round of ammunition is illegal, even if the firearm or ammunition is taken into Mexico unintentionally. The Mexican government strictly enforces its laws restricting the entry of firearms and ammunition along all land borders and at air and seaports. Violations have resulted in arrests, convictions, and long prison sentences for U.S. citizens.

 

Last time I sailed into Mexico, it took so long to clear customs, I was able to get cleared to leave half a day before I finally got cleared in. This is not a joke.

 

5 school shootings since the start of 2013 ?!?
Latest- 2 ****** argue and pull guns wounding each other and a passerby.
Good stuff!
No guns no passerby wounded?
At least they weren't shooting kids this time!

 

I'm sure it will do no good, but let me point this out anyway: in spite of the publicity, gun violence in the US, including mass shootings, has actually been declining for years now -- even as gun ownership grows.

That's in spite of the semi-hysterical insistence by a lot of people that having more guns automatically guarantees more mayhem.....