For those who carry arms on their boats-

I think that the only sensible weapon to carry onboard, from the overall performance perspective, is a shotgun. However, it is unwieldy inside a cabin with a legal length barrel.

 

A handgun is useless for underwater fishing.

 

I would like one of these very much.
http://www.tanstaafl.biz/product.html
Legal in 48 states, but unfortunately not in England.

 

Anyone who says a quarter of the population has a 'diagnosable mental disorder' is expanding the definition of mental disorder to the point that it's meaningless -- and therefore useless. It reminds me of the way the word 'disease' gets beaten to death.

 

When the going get tough, Lightweight pee shooters such as handguns make you look like a small boy in short pants.

In the Mediterranean before entering port, to soften up Harbour masters in places like Hvar, St Tropez, Porto Cervo, I always fire off a few salvos with my deck mounted cash cannon .

Maximum Throw weight is critical during high season............

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I have no problem with reasonable restrictions on full auto weapons. In spite of the people who insist that gun control laws never work, I notice it's been a while since anyone held up a bank with a Tommy gun, or committed a St. Valentine's Day Massacre with one. It isn't going to hurt my feelings any of they outlaw 30-round magazines for Glock pistols, or 100-round drums for AR-15's

In fact, I don't believe there's such a thing as a completely unrestricted right in society. That way lies anarchy.... The question is always, "where should we allow the government to draw the line, on weapons or anything else?"

 

OK- thanks.
That's how I see it as well.

On the last:

"The question is always, "where should we allow the government to draw the line, on weapons or anything else?"

This question is what interests me- the far reaches of this debate assign egregious assault on rights by "King Obama" for the slightest move on the issue.
There must be some effective governmental response out there.
What's you take on the standing prohibition on CDC research into gun violence?

 

What's Obama got to lose by doing this? Looks good- saying all the "right" things.... He won't get elected again and it will drag in congress with odds on it never getting passed anyway. Lots of talk and the NRA will stay at the heart of politics and congressman getting elected... What will really change? A concession here and there but no real change. Why? Because Americans don't want change.
So what is everyone getting so worked up about?
On this forum it seems to be a cultural thing ie Europe and others vs USA thinking on gun ownership.
What can "assault weapons" do? Remember those 2 guys that stuck up a bank? AK's,armour piercing bullets,30/50 round mags and body armour?
Does that happen in Europe?

 

Armed robberies happen here too, and sometimes with AK's. But we don't freak out about it. It happens, that's all.

 

You mean no movies made. No glorification. No ideas in the minds of future deviants?
I moved to Ireland from South Africa and let me tell you - it's a lot more relaxed here!!
In SA , the same problem as USA - ban the legal weapons and they will flood over the border... The criminal will still be able to get them.

 

Yes, because gun control works if applied before the critical mass is reached. Once half (or more) of the population has firearms, there's no way to get rid of them. Just as you have said in your previous post. When it comes to the USA domestic firearms policy, we are all just barking at the Moon here. That game is already over.

 

One more thing before bed - I have a 6 yr old and it's cartoons all the time. American cartoons are all violence,guns and monsters. Uk it's all cute as hell and educational.
Thankfully my boy likes the uk ones.
The contrast is quite scary though......
I'm not America bashing, as there is a hell of a lot going for the place- I just don't get this aspect of it.

 

Turn off the TV and read your kid a book. Also, don't ever give a toy gun to your child. It will teach him they are not lethal.

 

That isn't what toys taught me... I was four or five years old when my grandmother bought me a pair of cap guns for Christmas. My older brother and I also made rubber band guns by the dozen over the years, and we were given BB guns at a pretty early age. But we didn't grow up thinking guns are not lethal; we always knew the difference between a toy and the real thing.

 

Yup...watch this .... http://news.yahoo.com/video/photo-man-jc-penney-shopper-230414356.html

Made in America.

A big problem is all the psychologically damaged veterans returning from war who believe that might makes right.