Fishtail or Schilling rudder

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by colinstone, Feb 17, 2004.

  1. colinstone
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    colinstone Junior Member

    Hi,

    I am building a 72foot steel replica 1920s dutch barge in NL and want to fit a rudder that is either known as fishtail or schilling. The reason it is called fishtail is that is horizontal profile looks like the vertical profile of a fish. The advantage is that it is operated through a 140 degree range ie 70 - 0 - 70. In the normal 35-0-35 range it operates as a normal rudder, but when hard over gives sideways thrust. That with a bow truster means that the barge can be moved bodily sideways.

    Anyway, anyone out there got some formulae - size of rudder, balance ratio etc etc. Distance trailing edge of prop to leading edge of rudder etc etc.

    To see the type of vessel see here - this is a 15m version being built at the same yard. http://www.euroshipservices.nl/standaardpakketten.asp?PakketID=57

    TVMIA.
     
  2. Dutch Peter
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    Dutch Peter Senior Member

    Colinstone,

    To my knowledge the range upto 70 degrees is combined with a large rudder area to be able to give a thruster-like effect. The fishtail profile is for better performance in the 35-0-35 range.

    Regards,
     
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    Danger Mouse,

    The becker system rudder is not the same as a fishtail rudder. With the fishtail rudder the horizontal profile looks like a fish, but nothing moving.
     
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    Sorry Danger,

    I didn't look any further, you're right.
     
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