ferry service

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by catbaloo, Jan 29, 2005.

  1. catbaloo
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    catbaloo Junior Member

    I am trying to conduct a feasibility study as to a possibile ferry service.
    The country is in Asia where the roads are extremely poor yet the tourism is picking up.
    The trip would be from the airport, which is on the coast, down the coast to various hotels. The longest trip could be 160km.
    I am brain storming this by myself and am afraid that I may overlook an important aspect of the research.
    If anyone wishes to add a heading I would appreciate it.
    I have tried to group the titles.

    Who will use it?
    tourists
    locals
    no of flights per day
    time of flights
    no of possible passengers
    destination of passengers
    number of trips

    From where to where?
    km
    time by road
    time by sea

    Available harbours?
    harbour size
    quay side and docking
    dedicated berthing area within the harbour

    How long is the season?
    High season sea conditions
    low season sea conditions
    dual purpose cargo and passengers

    Capacity / comfort?
    no of seats
    boat speed

    Capital costs?
    size of boat
    design costs
    method of construction
    cost of construction
    place of construction

    Opperational costs?
    running costs fuel etc
    crew costs
    licensing, DOT or similar
    mooring fees

    fare per km?


    Thanks in advance
    Geoff
     
  2. jdannshipdesign
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    new ferry from new designer

    The Triplate 130+ is designed with three needs in mind, the needs of the operator, passenger and environment. It takes the best from conventional ferries and adds it too ingenuity to create a superb ferry for the 21st century. The Triplate 130+ has various superb ideas onboard, ranging from movable mezzanine decks, to a full two floor-viewing gallery. The environment has been thought about to, with filtration services and catalytic converters onboard to ensure the Triplate 130 leaves as little impact on its environment as possible. Email me on Jdannshipdesign@surefish.co.uk or Jdannshidpesign@hotmail.com for more information.
     
  3. catbaloo
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    catbaloo Junior Member

    Jdannshipdesign,
    Thanks for the reply.
    Your Triplate 130+ has produced some impressive numbers.
    I however am looking at something a lot smaller.
    The ferry route I am proposing would include some small fishing harbours.
    Without completing the study, I doubt if I could go bigger that 20 mtrs.
    I am still open to all suggestions.
    Regards.
    Geoff
     
  4. jdannshipdesign
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    Shall I produce a smaller design using many of the features that the Triplate 130 has?
     
  5. catbaloo
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    catbaloo Junior Member

    Jdannshipdesign,
    I could not download any of the pictures on your webpage.
    I would be curious to see your design.
    However is this not a bit premature? I should first complete the study.
    Regards
     
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  7. CDBarry
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    CDBarry Senior Member

    Go to the SNAME website (www.sname.org) and look at the work of Panel O-36, maritime economics. Also the SF WTA (www.watertransit.org).

    Getting the requirements and parameters right is far and away the most imoportant part of a commercial (or military) design - once you have this right, the rest is easy.

    Note that the regulatory environment is a big key.
     
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  9. catbaloo
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    catbaloo Junior Member

    CDBarry,

    Thank you for the posting. I am sure I can find some helpfull information there.

    Regards
     
  10. CDBarry
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    Also, TRB

    The (US) National Transportation Reseacrh Board (www.trb.org) has a great deal of references on transport planning. They recently published a level of service manula that includes a chapter on ferry design.

    Victoria Transport Policy Institute (www.vtpi.org) covers a wide range of general transport issues, some of which may be useful.
     
  11. davidjgray
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    davidjgray David Gray - Ace Marine

    Dear Sir

    Comments regarding getting the planning right are spot on. We are currently involved with development of our Spirit class 36 Passenger fast ferry (15m, 36 passengers, 18+knots, shllow draft - very manourverable, fuel efficient - I'll stop there - see the website at www.acemarine.co.uk for details). We have Spirit 50 on the drawing board 18m, 50 passengers, aiming at 35 knots for a local service. There is a lot of synergy between these Spirit class boats and aircraft, as they were designed around refurbished-aircraft seating. We would be happy to assist you with input into the planning phase or after you have decided on your requirements.

    Best of luck

    David Gray
     
  12. catbaloo
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    catbaloo Junior Member

    Thank you both CD Barry and David.
    I will be visiting the area later this month. My main concern is the size of the harbours down the coast. I think this may be the deciding factor, at least to boat size and capacity.
    Will keep posting.
    Regards
    Geoff
     

  13. catbaloo
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    catbaloo Junior Member

    I have returned from a visit to the area.
    Unfortunately due to excessive bureaurcacy, the fact that they have startred a road and undersize harbours I feel it is best to forget this idea.

    To all those who contributed to this thread, I would like to say thanks.
     
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