Europe more dangerouse than USA? (gunshots vs terror threat)

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  1. hoytedow
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    hoytedow Fly on the Wall - Miss ddt yet?

    The wreckage that we are experiencing is deliberate.
     
  2. Milan
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    Yes. I think it is very important example to all, where unlimitied military spending can lead too.

    It seems to me that US is pretty much following in their footsteps last years.

    http://costofwar.com/

    How? By forcing commie health care system on you?
     
  3. Leo Lazauskas
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    Yes, but only against women.
    Much like many other theocracies and religious institutions, really.
     
  4. michael pierzga
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    Yes indeed Milan...all great empires exhaust themselves by over extending their societies resources to project power.
     
  5. wardd
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    we love war and wage it better and more intensely than most all others.

    how much of our tv is war and violence?

    now it's gotten to the point of second amendment remedies

    an old saying big powers do not have small wars
     
  6. troy2000
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    Well, not technically a sharpie. But it's a close relative. It's a 21' (6.4 meter) double-ended, flat-bottomed sailing canoe. Cat ketch rigged like a sharpie, but with stayed masts and boomed sails. A narrow bottom, but enough flare to make it 5' 4" on deck (1.6 meters).

    The plans were originally drawn in 1933 by William 'Billy' Atkins. If you go to the link below and scroll down, you'll see photos of one as built a couple of years ago by a boatbuilding school. Unfortunately, they chose not to do lapstrake (clinker) planking as per the original plans, and I'm a little disappointed. They could at least have done lapstrake plywood.... But I can't complain too much, because their version still looks good.

    http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Sail/Excelsior.html

    It's going to be my next build -- and the first one I've ever built according to someone else's plans. After its done, I'll graduate to building the 30' (9 meter) sharpie I've been working on for a while.

    I'm rambling on like a teenage boy with a new girlfriend, aren't I? That's OK. Falling in love keeps you young, and I definitely love this design.:)
     
  7. michael pierzga
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    R D Culler also did some nice sharpies.
     
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    Really? Thanks for the tip. I had no idea Pete Culler had designed sharpies. I'll have to go looking for them....
     
  9. Milan
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    Nice looking boat. I always liked long, narrow boats. I was also interested in sharpies, (liking them from the pictures), never had a chance to see or try one.

    We have a lot of shallow waters here. Our own traditional shallow draft boats are very different from the sharpies, much bulkier and heavier built, working boats built to haul some weight.

    Would like to build Egret some day, just for fun of it and see how it works. Maybe one of these days when I find a time.:rolleyes:

    Yes, I have his book “Skiffs and schooners”, there are one or two bigger sharpies and some long, narrow skiffs that are somewhere between skiff and sharpie.

    Then, Howard Chapelle, Robert Taylors books “Good boats”, Rauel Parker.
     
  10. michael pierzga
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    Cullers book Skiffs and Schooners is boatbuilding literature....worth a copy if its still published. Hard to figure out exactly what a sharpie is. His personal skiff "Otter" was termed a fast bateau. page 65...sorry for the bad pic.
     

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  11. apex1

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    Have no idea about Cullers skiffs, but you should move your boat immediately, or adjust your gyro!

    You are in White Russia! 54.70N / 26.79E

    And worse, there is no water around.........:D
     
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  12. masrapido
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    masrapido Junior forever

    In the meantime FBI is manufacturing "terrorists".

    http://www.surfiz.com/index.php?q=a...ob21lZ3Jvd24tdGVycm9yMi5odG1sP2Z1bGxzdG9yeQ==

    AS the mother of the accused "terrorist" said, they lure dissented people, and they offer them an option. People who normally would not even have an opportunity to think, let alone do something against their own country.

    But enters the government, gives them the money, the ideas, and then it stocks them away.

    Because these "dangerous" people are "domestic terrorists".

    And Europe is more dangerous than the police state of the usa?

    Of course, let us blame Obama for all this. Let us call him a leftie and blame him and the rest of the lefties for all this **** going on in the usa (mostly. the rest of the world is a lot quieter) caused by the government itself.

    Ahhh, the capitalism...The world of opportunities!!! Just need to know the right people and have the money, and the world is your playground!



    Suck that. ( if you suffer from a slight deformation of the mouth cavity resulting in incorrect pronounciation of the "s" which makes if sound more like a "f", you'll get the idea...)

    : )
     
  13. masrapido
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    masrapido Junior forever

    And, as I have pointed out several times now, in this very tread, you need to start using your head instead of your bum for reading and thinking.

    It's a huge challenge, I understand. But you MUST do it. It is for your own good. Making self-engranding comments, patronising others and all that because you misread and misunderstand.

    You better shut up if you are incapacitated for reading and understanding processes.

    Milan said 30 wars.

    Not 45, as you intentionally misrepresent his words.

    30.

    Saying 45 makes you look rather like mark.

    If you cannot stand the criticism of your country, which is based on facts no one is teaching you in your schools, tough.

    The world would most likely have been a lot nicer place if it were not for the usa. We could have done without those 30-45 and probably a few more wars.

    There would have been wars without the usa, but none would have been so horrifying and so devastating to the international peace.

    All thanks to the usa.

    Who is the biggest EXPORTER of the arms?

    usa.

    Who is arming Mexican mafia as if there is another WW coming tomorrow?

    usa.

    Who is killing people right now in 2 countries thousands of kilometres away?

    usa

    Haiti you want to talk about? How did usa help PREVENTING the colera?

    It didn't. It could have done so. It would cost a couple of millions. a drop in the ocean compared to internal debt capitalist failure ammassed (13 trillions and growing). Wouldn't even notice.

    The only doctors still working in Haiti are Cubans and Europeans.

    usanians, however, have an army of preachers and religious scumbags, probably enjoying the situation and raping children.

    Thanks "america"! What on earth would we do without you!?!?!?!

    Here's what I think: a lot more.
     
  14. masrapido
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    masrapido Junior forever

    usa lost 50 nuclear bombs from the base.

    CrapNotNews (lesser known as CNN) reported it as "lost communication"!!!

    Hahaha!!! Lost communication! So the bombs now talk, or something?

    But, then, as was to be expected, the news was withdrawn from all CNN sites Don't believe? check the CNN links.

    Here are some, but you are encouraged to search them on your own:

    edition.cnn.com/2010/US/10/26/nukes.lost.communications/index.html?hpt=T2

    or

    www.cnn.com/2010/US/10/26/nukes.lost.communications

    or

    news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/26/air-force-lost-partial-communication-with-missiles//index.html?eref=rss_us

    Non-governmental, probably just the usanian fifth column, the bloody homegrown "terrorists", as oficially labelled by the nazist government, sites and organisations are not affected by the governmental blackout so the info can be still found on their sites:

    www.prisonplanet.com/us-air-force-lost-50-nukes.html

    or

    truthiscontagious.com/2010/10/27/us-air-force-lost-50-nukes


    Personally, I love their names. The Prisonplanet and Truth is contagious.

    Bloody homegrown "terrorists"!!!! How dare they destabilise the crumbling utopia by telling the truth to the public!!!

    Subversive anarchists!!!!


    And then troy comes out and wants people to shut up when they observe such idiotic, and nazist really, behaviour of their own government.

    Can't stop the truth and can't stop me laughing at the nazist gulag called usa. usa is causing it all on its own. You better go to your own stupid dictatorship and tell them to shut up.

    And find those nukes (call them, they may hear you. they like to "communicate"...) before some "homegrown terrorists, trained and led by the fbi and/or cia, blow you all up and pollute OUR atmosphere too.


    And Europe is still "more dangerous" than the usa!?!?!?!?!?!?

    Can't see how. Just can't. Correct me if I am wrong, but how is all that LESS dangerous than a "possible" terrorist attack somewhere in Europe?
     

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    I have books by John Gardner (The Dory Book, Classic Small Craft You Can Build); Bud McIntosh (How to Build a Wooden Boat); George Buehler (Backyard Boatbuilding); John Atkin (Practical Small Boat Designs); Edwin Monk (How to Build Wooden Boats); Reuel Parker (the Sharpie Book); Phil Bolger (Boats With an Open Mind, 100 Small Boat Rigs); "Dynamite" Payson (Build the New Instant Boats); and Howard Chapelle (Boatbuilding, American Small Sailing Craft).

    And I went on a binge this weekend; it's dangerous to let my laptop get too close to my wallet. I ordered Chapelle's The National Watercraft Collection, plus a first edition copy of American Small Sailing Craft -- in the hopes that in the larger original book, the !@#$ plans will actually be legible. I also ordered a book on glued lapstrake boatbuilding. I don't even remember the author's name on that last one; hope it turns out to be worthwhile.

    You guys shouldn't have mentioned Pete Culler's book; you're costing me money.:p
     
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