Electric Launch Design optimized for semi-displacement speeds

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  1. Stephen Ditmore
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    What I fail to understand is why you find mischaracterizing what I've said so endlessly fascinating. If you want a truism, a new design is more current than an old design. I didn't say it was better, shinier, or anything except representative of someone's relatively current thinking. The Z11 is considerably more conventional than recent hydrofoil offerings, for example.
     
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    There is no mischaracterisation at all.
    You fail to understand that you, fail to understand, that is all.

    Again, you fail to understand.
    A truism, is something that is self-evident. Thus, you're point being?? (again).

    Current thinking of what?...have you spoken to the designer about what they are currently thinking?

    Again, im shocked at this endless misdirection and conflating one with the other.
    Ergo, you are attracted to all things bright and shinny....to have a narrative of "something"...of what, no idea.
     
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    What you claim I don't understand, I do understand. What you claim are facts are truisms that are too obvious to be considered a useful contribution to this thread. This part of BoatDesign.net is supposed to be a space for collaborative design projects. If you don't like my ideas, please propose something better. If it's not relevant to semi-displacement electric launches, please take it to a different thread (a link to which you may post here if you want).
     
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    I'm somewhat loathed to continue,.....and yet....

    It is you that constantly introduces these non-sequitur "truisms", no one else....and what do they contribute...nothing, just pointless misdirection at a bright shinny thing.

    Says who?

    Why should I propose something?...is it a rule of the forum?
    I am merely replying to posts that I read and asking for clarification upon the Ops claims, or request...or where Ops seeks information.

    Oh the irony.
    You fail to grasp the endless misdirections on this thread are introduced by...er...umm....let me think!! :rolleyes::eek:





     
  5. Stephen Ditmore
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    I've addressed this at post #181. You fault me for repeating myself, so I won't.
    That's why there are electricians among the contest judges - not just naval architects. Entry packet attached.
     

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    Don't you realize that this "very interesting" discussion is no longer of interest to anyone (that's my impression). Between the two of you, you've killed this thread.:(
     
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    Stephen Ditmore,
    I'm still waiting for my question in post 180.
    JS
     
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    Looking for a boatbuilder / sponsor willing to offer the winner prize money. In return for accepting the prize money, the recipient would license the sponsoring builder to build the boat. In my view, the builder should also offer the recipient per-hull royalties.
     
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    This is finally taking shape. It doesn't seem easy to find such an altruistic person. In any case, whoever pays for the design should participate in selecting the winner. They might even want to be the sole judge of the competition, or even set the rules themselves. And, naturally, such an "exceptional" design should be worthy of an "exceptional" award.
     
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    8mLaunch_in_container.jpg 8mLaunch_in_container2.jpg
    A 40-foot high cube shipping container typically has interior dimensions of approximately 39 feet 5 inches (11.99 meters) long, 7 feet 8 inches (2.34 meters) wide, and 8 feet 10 inches (2.69 meters) high. My way or resolving whether catamarans are eligible is to require all contestants to be:
    • Fully functional as a club launch
    • Fit inside a high cube shipping container
    This may be achieved by demounting (simple disassembly), so long as it can be done with a minimum of steps and fuss.
    It may be achieved by turning the boat on its side (as required in the case of my monohull design), or by orienting it in any other way for which a support cradle can be designed.

    This and other requirements may change if a sponsor is found for the contest, at the sponsor's discretion.
     
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    How does that fit in with your original MO:
     
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    I think that the premise that a launch optimized for semi-displacement speeds would be different if it is electric powered than diesel power is misguided. A launch designed for a minimum range at semi-displacement speeds would be a relevant discussion if electric power is specified. However, semi-displacement has to be defined, which already takes many threads of endless discussions. A target speed must be chosen for the discussion to be relevant.
     
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