efficient 10m displacement powercat (build thread)

Discussion in 'Boatbuilding' started by groper, Apr 15, 2012.

  1. groper
    Joined: Jun 2011
    Posts: 2,483
    Likes: 144, Points: 73, Legacy Rep: 693
    Location: australia

    groper Senior Member

    I tried a soft start first - didn't limit the current low enough and still tripped the inverter... hence more extreme measures were required :D
     
  2. DennisRB
    Joined: Sep 2004
    Posts: 1,270
    Likes: 27, Points: 48, Legacy Rep: 228
    Location: Brisbane

    DennisRB Senior Member

    Nice work, so you went with electric after all. What make is that compressor? Did you end up with lithium batteries? I gave up on the idea as the price went up so high. I should have stopped off in Norway when I was in Europe.
     
  3. groper
    Joined: Jun 2011
    Posts: 2,483
    Likes: 144, Points: 73, Legacy Rep: 693
    Location: australia

    groper Senior Member

    Compressor is a bauer pe-100 - they make a 3 phase version but I picked up this one (single phase) second hand, used once :)
    Didn't go with lithium batteries as the price was double after the dollar crashed.. I still would have liked to, maybe I'll upgrade to lithium if these AGM batteries die...
     
  4. DennisRB
    Joined: Sep 2004
    Posts: 1,270
    Likes: 27, Points: 48, Legacy Rep: 228
    Location: Brisbane

    DennisRB Senior Member

    Yeah I just got some more AGMs too, much to my disappointment. Lithium would be much more efficient at powering very high loads like a compressor and cooking appliances. Nice find on the compressor. I need to keep my eyes open...

    Hey is your boat built to commercial survey standard?
     
  5. groper
    Joined: Jun 2011
    Posts: 2,483
    Likes: 144, Points: 73, Legacy Rep: 693
    Location: australia

    groper Senior Member

    Nup, never be fuel efficient if that were required..survey boats are overbuilt to buggery ... It's built to recreational ISO standard tho :)
     
  6. jorgepease
    Joined: Feb 2012
    Posts: 1,620
    Likes: 51, Points: 48, Legacy Rep: 75
    Location: Florida

    jorgepease Senior Member

    I bet you could sell those!
     
  7. DennisRB
    Joined: Sep 2004
    Posts: 1,270
    Likes: 27, Points: 48, Legacy Rep: 228
    Location: Brisbane

    DennisRB Senior Member

    I knew it would make it somewhat heavier, but the difference is that bad hey? Do you have any idea exactly how much heavier? Fishing charters seem like a good and fun way to make money.
     
  8. groper
    Joined: Jun 2011
    Posts: 2,483
    Likes: 144, Points: 73, Legacy Rep: 693
    Location: australia

    groper Senior Member

    So back to bottom paint - im thinking of trying the super slippery coatings like interlux intersleek pro or the hempaguard x7 etc... ive noticed that these are difficult to buy as they are typically used on commercial boats and professionally applied at slipways etc...

    There doesnt seem to be a great deal of information out there from recreational users which makes it hard to decide if the extra expense is going to be worth it... i figure it must be worth it if commercial ships are favoring this option over traditional biocide coatings?
     
  9. waikikin
    Joined: Jan 2006
    Posts: 2,440
    Likes: 179, Points: 73, Legacy Rep: 871
    Location: Australia

    waikikin Senior Member

    Your boat looks ideal for nosing up on the beach.. the intersleek(dont know the hempel) is not easy to patch in nicely. It does work well, things will grow on it but barnacles will push off.
    You could use a combination of hard antifoul & copper epoxy for contact areas(crap at antifould but not going to rub off on sand so easy).
    Jeff
     
  10. groper
    Joined: Jun 2011
    Posts: 2,483
    Likes: 144, Points: 73, Legacy Rep: 693
    Location: australia

    groper Senior Member

    Good point on the beaching jeff- i guess that puts all the slippery coatings out if I want to beach the boat? What else can I use - any recommendations would be appreciated...
     
  11. groper
    Joined: Jun 2011
    Posts: 2,483
    Likes: 144, Points: 73, Legacy Rep: 693
    Location: australia

    groper Senior Member

    Ok so without any further recommendations on the antifoul, i decided to put the semi hard antifoul on by hempel - the hempel olympic 89650. Cheap and cheerful, it will do for now...

    In the mean time, we got a crane in and lifted the boat up and dropped it back down on some 200L drums in preparation to paint the underside and antifouling. I asked the crane operator how much it weighed, he said 2.9 tonne. So i was pretty close in my estimations and design goals. Im about 200-300kg more than what i would have liked, but i figured there would be some blow outs due to unforseen items - i know i under estimated the weight of the paint for one - there must be over 100kg of paint on this thing by now...

    Trying to splash in about 2 weeks time, which gives me 2 weekends to finish the painting and antifouling :) heres a couple more pics...

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]


    Anyone wanna take a guess at what the top speed will be? :D I have a reasonable idea based off michlet calculations, but ill wait till last before adding my prediction :p
     
    Niclas Vestman likes this.
  12. DennisRB
    Joined: Sep 2004
    Posts: 1,270
    Likes: 27, Points: 48, Legacy Rep: 228
    Location: Brisbane

    DennisRB Senior Member

    Did you pay for this project by selling scrap metal? :p I have no idea on power boat speeds so I will just say fkn fast. I can finally see the hull shapes on the real boat. I like the almost non existent rocker. I will be even more impressed once you do the antifoul and the splash pics line up perfectly.
     
  13. Mr Efficiency
    Joined: Oct 2010
    Posts: 10,386
    Likes: 1,045, Points: 113, Legacy Rep: 702
    Location: Australia

    Mr Efficiency Senior Member

    What prop pitch did you select ?
     
  14. groper
    Joined: Jun 2011
    Posts: 2,483
    Likes: 144, Points: 73, Legacy Rep: 693
    Location: australia

    groper Senior Member

    Ha Dennis - well spotted on the scrap metal :) i pay a young guy once a month to come and scrap all the old air cons I remove as part of my business...

    I marked the center of gravity on the boat for the crane operator. I have a spreadsheet which accounts for every peice in the boat as i built it, both location and moment. The center of gravity should be right over the center of buoyancy and it will float level as per the designed waterline and buoyancy distribution of the hull shape. So far everything is lining up just fine :)

    Prop pitch is 13 7/8 x 21" - i didnt select this they came with the motors. I figure I'll just run those first and then re pitch after seeing how it goes...
     

  15. Mr Efficiency
    Joined: Oct 2010
    Posts: 10,386
    Likes: 1,045, Points: 113, Legacy Rep: 702
    Location: Australia

    Mr Efficiency Senior Member

    That surprised me, till I read that the gear ratio is 2.59:1. That is highly unusual for a motor that size, but suits your application I think, it must be running the same box as the bigger engines.
     
Loading...
Forum posts represent the experience, opinion, and view of individual users. Boat Design Net does not necessarily endorse nor share the view of each individual post.
When making potentially dangerous or financial decisions, always employ and consult appropriate professionals. Your circumstances or experience may be different.