Professional Livestock Carrier?..... Dangerous?

You wont believe it, In sulawesi they tend to carry livestock in the Pinisi boat with no sanitary and decent animal feed or air circulation. The animal is crap like Sardine and life count are not impressive.

So any idea? I look into web google and gallery in the forum but cant find animal transport vessel...... weird....... maybe disigning one is not profitable..... yes?

The Ship gonna have:

1. Good air circulation
2. Fresh water and feed
3. Drainage for waste
4. sanitary medicated spray from above springkler.
5. Container cage for fast exchange.
6. Slanting deck for water channeling.
7. Protection from weather.
8. Fast Engine for faster turnaround.
9. Capt. and crew that are sober

Cant say I have said it all, so any add on friends? It would be interesting.

Wellydeckhand

 

Google "Zebu Express" and/or "Buffalo Express" and "Al Shuwaikh"
All of these are specialised livestock carriers, although a lot of the internet presence is negative due to their trade.
Steve

 

Thanks SailDesign,

I think all the above ship have a link to:http://www.liveexportshame.com/

It seem all big livestock boat are converted from shipwreck vessel or scape and rebuilt for the purpose of long distance livestock transport.

What I am thinking is a max 1-3 days transport that carry live stock.

 

Welly

From my time at sea I remember being downwind of these vessels a couple of times - smaell was to say the least, not very nice! It's a poor trade to be in due to adverse publicity (some of it warranted) that these kind of vessels receive. The noise of the poor beasts going to their deaths (and they know it) can be very disconcerting, because of this the crews tend to be of the lowest kind of person - not to say they all are, but your average person let alone seaman cannot stand the trade for long! Every port of call and the crew is made to feel poor by various groups, not all from the 'nutty fringe' ('save the animals' and the like). thus the vessels used tend not to be the best! Enough of that, if you wish to transport animals you have to be prepared for the stench, the noise and the bad publicity (and that's just in good weather, imagine the poor devils in bad weather - worse than being in hell, a heavy animal can easily break a leg in heavy weather, then you really have trouble). OK if you want to transport for a couple of days but I'd be more inclined to carry a few in temporary stables constructed on the hatch or in the upper hold with dedicated stockmen carried! this has been done for race horses (expensive pampered beasts at best). But unless you can be sure of perfect weather you need a system to relieve their weight as the vessel rolls, sort of like a harness each! Damned expensive, OK for a one of for breeding stock but normally why would you want to carry living animals, far better to humanely slaughter them before shipment! Damn sight easier to carry amongst other considerations ('reefer', no smell (unless the refridgeration breaks down!) no noise, and most importantly no bad stigma, thus you get to sleep at night!

Just my view (with a small amount of experience thrown in) but there it is, hope it's of use

 

A small RO RO or ex military landing vessel I believe is suitable for your needs.

 

It will take about 1-2 days at top travelled at 20knots to cross island trading livestock. if the weather get bad its a matter to sedate the animal temp.? Bad idea huh.

 

Livestock vessel
http://www.northlinkferries.co.uk/hascosay-pictures.html
Interesting:
http://www.oie.int/eng/publicat/RT/2402/PDF/norris673-681.pdf
http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/welfare/farmed/transport/dover/dover.htm
http://europa.eu.int/comm/food/animal/welfare/transport/initiatives_en.htm
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/sr/sr1997/Nisr_19970346_en_1.htm

 

Smaller version livestock vessel for inter-island

Well, Thanks for the twelve finger fast typing

My vet , she is the one asking for the possible of developing and substitute the present animal livestock carrier vessel into medium professsional vessel for inter-island transport.

The picture so far for export to other country type of vessel.

It seem N.A. have not design small ship for inter-island purpose? What a shame.

Wellydeckhand.

P.S. It will be cheaper and faster just export slaughtered and packed meat....... muslim give good money for livestock.

 

Not so: As per the info at their web page Northlink is an interislands ferrying services company. The ship carries freight and livestock. The same principle may be easily applied to an smaller vessel.

 

It is cheaper to buy old scape and rebuid and refit to be economy? Or build from new design?

 

Luckily Welly is not constrained by European laws! Otherwise it would certainly be a no go!
The UK Regulation quoted by Gillermo covers some beautiful quotes that prohibit any movement of animals at all especially Regulation 4(2). And Regulation 6 adds to the entertainment! From memory in Aberdeen in both eighties and nineties, whilst the ships were old the animals did have a reassonable degree of safety and feeding (it is a 24 hour fast passage, aberdeen to Lerwick from where most of these sheep came from) but with the short passage this wasn't too much of a problem! They were also only transported during the summer months (for good farming reasons amongst others) and thus the weather was at worst reasonable, and could be planned for! but...
The poor wee beasties were still scared half to death, the noise and the smell (despite regular cleaning) was still pretty heavy - if I remember rightly the crews were mainly from the Phillipines! they being the only guys who would do it (that's useful Welly!)
There were other shipments from a southern English port which was worse, running down channel to the Mediterranean I believe, only saw this end but .... the receiprients were I believe Arab countries - as Welly said Muslims will pay well for live meat! (I'm not going into the whys or werefores of a religious problem - each to his own, and as long as it suits him may his God be with him!)

Interesting to note that the main kind of animal that Northlink carries is two legged sentient beings, worst possible cargo to carry (I've carried a few) but to a certain extent they are easier to look after (don't believe it! they have other whinges)

As I said before it can be done in small numbers but only if you have to!

best of luck with it Welly - sooner you than me mate

 

Schooners and small freighters

In Australia, it is common practice to carry cattle or sheep on small coasting schooners and coastwise freighters. I believe that the small and more densely packed animal carriers are used for a time period of only one, two or maybe three days at most. Similar to animal truck transports, the animals are given water but not food during the voyage. Some old schooners have been restored for this purpose but have power added for propulsion.

 

Thanks Walrus...... that is an informative article to explain and clarifiy Gilly's link. Gilly himself also very knowledgable in this area it seem.

Greenseas2...... That is the idea , small to medium carrier that would transport livestock for a limit time for inter-island and improved version would be nice.

 

Australian design West coasters boat from the 80's to 90's will suit your project real nice.I do really love the designs by Phil Curran.Those work boat looks more or less like the Shadow.

 

Do you have any picture Ari? would like to view it too