Does anyone know what boat i have here ? Any help please

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  1. Mark Brookes
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    :)

    I have a boat here that i have to remove from our unit and i would like any help in finding out what we have and if it will sell ?

    Many thanks

    Mark

    P.S i can supply pics !!
     
  2. Scot McPherson
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    Can't help without pics
     
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    Welcome to the forum Mark.

    Please click the "Go Advanced" button on the quick reply or the blue Post Reply button and then click Manage Attachments and attach photo of the boat to a reply post.
     
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    Sorry , where is the go advanced button please ?
     
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    Sorry again , just found it but havent a clue what to do with the "manage attatchments page I can forward the email that tthe pics are in ?
     
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    boat pics ... what is this boat please ?

    LHs BOAT 1.jpg
     

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  7. Barry
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    With the multiple rowing locations, perhaps a old whaling boat
    The pipe in the middle does not extend to the bottom of the boat so perhaps this was to tie the harpoon rope off to. As compared to something that might hold a removable sail mast??
    Or a life boat
     
  8. Angélique
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

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    She looks like a ... Whaleboat Wikipedia ---> Whaleboat Google ---> Whaleboat Google Images

    Below some Kromhout-Whalers Dutch link

    Massachusetts (USA) New Bedford Whaling Museum ---> The Whaleboat Scroll down ---> Whales and Hunting

     
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

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    Here some more info about the Dutch Kromhout Whalers (all links in Dutch, so get the translator started... ;))

    1: Kromhout Whaler Class Home _ _ 2: Kromhout Whaler Class Kromhout Whalers _ _ 3: Okke Hel a rowers association

    4: Dick van Amerongen Director of Shipyard 't Kromhout in Amsterdam _ _ 5: Dick van Amerongen Image Library of the city of Amsterdam

     
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

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    Yes, it could be a a life boat too. The whale-boat's design dates worldwide back to the era of the Vikings, hence their global similarities. By their double ended shape they can be rowed almost as simple forward as astern, so they're very agile in whale hunting. Both the Dutch Navy and Coast Guard have used whale-boat derived designs as life boats in the 1800's. Although they're usually rowed, most originals have a centerboard and a step for a mast, so they can be sailed too.
     
  11. Scot McPherson
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    I think she looks too much like those whale boat pictures that were posted first. She's got the right number of oarlocks, the right shape and the right/matching bulkheads and supports.

    If it were I, I would try to restore her to her former glory, or donate her to your local/regional maritime historical society or museum. Here where I live, that would be the Mystic Seaport Maritime Museum, but in Wales, I am not sure where you should be pointed if that would be one of your choices.
     
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

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    Hi Mark,

    How did the boat ended up in your barn ?
     
  13. SukiSolo
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    I'd almost put money on her being a Montagu 27' whaler. These were Royal Navy training boats for many years, and sometimes powered too. I even have a Charge Certificate for the sail and powered versions plus the 32' Cutter (power only) which was a larger transomed beast.

    The rig is dipping lugsail with mizzen and foresail. The best performance sailing is to use the booming out spar all the time except when true beating. I remember teaching an old Petty Officer how much quicker this was than the 'standard' technique way back in the 70s'. When he saw us sailing away from him whilst racing identical vessels he soon got his spar out. Have also rigged trapezes on them for fun as they are quite narrow.

    One was wrecked on the north face of Ewe Island at the mouth of Loch Ewe and the crew were saved by virtue of it happening by a narrow crevice allowing foot passage up the near sheer cliff. It was an 'interesting' experience to observe, not one I wish to see again and it was needless too, simple bad seamanship.

    Try a googly for the Montagu whaler - the Wiki is no good.
     
  14. keith66
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    Second vote for a Montagu whaler, five rowing positions & a snubbing winch for the mainsheet. She does not look to be in very good condition so i doubt she will be worth much at all.
     

  15. PAR
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    Welcome to the forum.

    I see a lot of issues with that old gal. Unless you are into pain and have lots of money to toss into this puppy, she's not worth much to anyone. In her current state, she needs everything (literally), so any prospective owner will need to be convinced of any intrinsic value. Maybe after the debris was vacuumed out, you'd find a picture of JFK with Marilyn Monroe in a bathing suit, both sitting in the boat. This would move her into a marketable area. Simply put, that boat (unfortunately) is done and without some prominence or other notable concern, it's simply cheaper to remake a new one, then redo this one. If the boat was notable for some reason, templates could be made from her, for a new build. If not, there's plenty of pulling boat plans available.
     
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