Dix 43; getting there...

Discussion in 'Metal Boat Building' started by Wynand N, Jun 21, 2008.

  1. jmurf
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    jmurf Junior Member

    No prob Wynand
    Start your day over.
    Appreciate your experience on the forum.
     
  2. GrumpyTim
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    GrumpyTim Junior Member

    Hi,

    One of my friend wants to start building a boat and we are now thinking about building Dix43 Pilot version. Can you give me some figures about the cost of this boat? What are the Hull and Deck and complete boat ready to sail costs?

    Dudley Dix has a good reputation here in Turkey too.
    I think you are one of the pro builders of Dudley Dix designs, do you still make boats for production? if so, what will be the cost of a complete Dix43 if you build it for a customer?
     
  3. Wynand N
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    Wynand N Retired Steelboatbuilder

    Hi GrumpyTim,

    PM me or contact me on the following email to discuss costs. norcom@telkomsa.net
     
  4. lazeyjack

    lazeyjack Guest

    hello Tim
    Can you send me a pm, or activate your email here, I should like to talk about tr
    thanks
     
  5. lazeyjack

    lazeyjack Guest

    whose rudder is it?
    why is rudder so far from hull, why is trailing edge so thick, and why skeg? :))--
     
  6. StrandedMariner
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    StrandedMariner Steelboatsailor

    As I mentioned earlier in this thread, the Dix43 comes with two alternatives for the rudder. One is the skeg mounted rudder as on my boat, the other is a spade rudder.
    Personally I don't like spade rudders a lot on cruising boats. Not only because of the risk of damaging / losing it, but also because spade rudders tend to bend, and require often (more expensive) self adjusting bearings.

    The skeg option offers good protection, and because of the rigid construction we could use a simple Vesconite bush for the rudder stock.

    Cheers,
    Andreas
     
  7. lazeyjack

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    wow that is pure and absolute nonsence, esp in steel--- maxi racers use spades, surfing down waves at 30 plus knots, as do i on my boats, they do not flex let alone bend
    in fact see lloyds tests, oh forget it mate,
    but you answered nothing, why the gap, that boat loses lots of easy helming because of it, and why the thick trailing edge
    Arudder is a perhaos the most important part of a sailing yacht, whoever designed that was, um not up to the job:))
    your ideas, and I am not at all being rude, are without foundation A skeg hinders also easy turns on a cent piece, sure you need a bigger spacing between brgs
    Wynnard, you build, nice job mate
     
  8. Wynand N
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    Wynand N Retired Steelboatbuilder

    as StrandedMariner mentioned, its a personal preference regarding the type of rudder used.
    As for the gap - the rudder was built as per plan religiously.
    Your crack about the designer not up to the job is well unfounded, and to enlighten you - Dudley Dix is perhaps the designer with the best credentials around and possibly the most well known steel designer in the world. And then again you would not know as you are an alu man....and living down under in old poor BR turf.;)
     
  9. lazeyjack

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    your opinion mate I rang this guy, his head is stuck in wool, i asked him to work with me, I said why did he not build right way up, his answer," my boats are mainly built by amateurs"
    rudder is **** full stop, no matter wot medium, glad you did not design it and so what if you put this up we are allowed to critisize, I am NOT critisizing your work at all, Christ I dont even critizize Brents work, just his concepts
    Wyn that is a statement unbecoming of you, he is a designer , just ordinary,
    see those superyachts? from way back, power and sail , clever artistic navel architects, he is just a Dudley Dick. making a good living from, ::::::::::::::::::::: wwwww
    come on man
    get real
     
  10. StrandedMariner
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    StrandedMariner Steelboatsailor

    I chose this design, the Dix43, because I wanted a strong and sturdy cruising boat. I did a lot of research before I made my choice. The Dix43 is a proven, strong, and simple design with many boats sailing out there since 20 years. I want strength and reliability, not speed. You can call that nonsense, that's ok with me. I will have my new boat in a few months and be smiling. That's all that matters for me.
     
  11. Manie B
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    Manie B Senior Member

    absolutely

    good luck mate:D :D :D
     
  12. lazeyjack

    lazeyjack Guest

    She looks very fair, bog? and belting exactly right, ss face?
     
  13. GrumpyTim
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    GrumpyTim Junior Member


    I've sent you an e-mail today...
     
  14. Wynand N
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    Wynand N Retired Steelboatbuilder

    Do you see any of that on the bare blasted hull?
     

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  15. Manie B
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    Manie B Senior Member

    Hi guys

    re - Vesconite

    just to put your mind at ease

    i have used A LOT OF VESCONITE since circa 1980 when Mr Macdonald was the manager in Denver branch. We traded under the names of - Romage garage lifts - Tekcar car and bus washing machines - and Tanglewild slurry pinch valves, mainly for fly ash at Eskom.

    Vesconite IS DAMN GOOD :D :D :D

    btw i like your rudder just the way it is :D :D :D
     
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