Design for a canoe

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by DutchAlbatros, Mar 7, 2012.

  1. DutchAlbatros
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    Hello Sailors,

    I am looking for a design of a canoe. If possible one with a sail on it.

    Regards,

    DutchAlbatros
     
  2. DCockey
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  3. Petros
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    In my experience real canoes do not sail well at all, nor the kayaks fitted with sailing rigs. They only really work for down wind, and the sail rig/rudder/side board compromises the canoe for use as a canoe.

    There are such vessels known as "sailing canoes" but these are called that based on the appearance of the hull, they are not really suitable for use as a canoe because they are too wide and too heavy. They are sailboats with a large canoe looking hull.

    A good paddling canoe is narrow and light, to make it easy to paddle. A sailboat hull needs to be wider with a decent rudder and dagger board or center board, and made heavier to take the loads from the mast and sail.

    General rule is to not go sailing in a canoe, and do not go canoeing in a sailboat.

    Find a simple to build and lightweight canoe, or build yourself a little day sailor.
     
  4. DutchAlbatros
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    Hello David,

    Thank for your quick response. I have seen these vessels before.
    Your answer is a big help for me.

    I have looked at the url's you mentioned.
    Precise what I am looking for.

    Hope to hear from you. You are the expert in boat design.

    Regards,

    Anton Vandersteen
    Eindhoven/The Netherlands
     
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  6. DutchAlbatros
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    Hello Gonzo,

    Thanks for your response. The story is also about sailing on the river Meuse, which also flows through the Netherlands, actually not far away from where I live.

    Regards,

    DutchAlbatros
     
  7. variverrunner
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    Dutchalbatros'

    Check out "Canoe And Boat Building For Amateurs", by W.P. Stephens. It is available at Amazon for $10- 15 USD. Its was originally published in the 1880s or so. It includes a number of sailing canoes w/ offsets.

    Good luck

    Allan
     

  8. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    Decide what you want to do mostly. If you want to paddle/row with occasional sailing, then select a design best suited to pulling with your arms. It will not sail very well, but it can manage if you don't ask of it much. If you'd like to sail quite a bit, accept a design better suited for this, which will require more rowing effort.

    This is my recommendation for a sailing canoe:

    http://www.storerboatplans.com/Beth/beth.html

    It sails and paddles well, plus is a very easy build.
     
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