Design & build a sail wooden boat, a dream 75-85 ft

Discussion in 'Sailboats' started by aymanisamana, Jul 22, 2017.

  1. aymanisamana
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    aymanisamana Junior Member

    Dear All,
    Greetings and good day

    I need a small help,
    I want to design & build a sail wooden boat, a dream 75-85 ft.
    I need support from designers both out/in boat.

    The boat is:
    · Lightweight
    . Wood & epoxy
    · Unsinkable if possible (will it be if the hull was a 2-3” thick sold wood or by structure in the lower hull part)
    · Modern classic or modern
    · Single or double mast
    · Low maintenance & long lasting(strong hull)
    · Can be solo sailed if needed

    To use the boat as home in hot climate and maybe charter if I have to.
    I will use this boat in shallow waters, travel long distance and should be very comfy even when anchoring

    Please contact me
    Many thanks,
    Ayman
     
  2. jorgepease
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    You should start by browsing the web and reading what makes a good live aboard sailboat. Many of the traits you mention are discussed, ie short handed, shallow water, maintenance ... many threads also give an idea of cost - 75-85 foot is a pretty big boat, chartering often requires special licensing and built to certifications, do you have around half a million bucks to build it? What about the time, if you use traditional one off methods, everyone here will tell you to expect 5+ years of your time. Once you have identified these issues you can find your ideal boat ... most cruisers are happy with 45-50' (catamarans) but a lot of others are happy with much smaller.
     
  3. aymanisamana
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    Thank you very much


    I know about the cost. I am trying to minimize it to fit my budget. I own a carpentry shop and I have calculated building time to be 3 months and another 3 painting, and 6 months for fitting and the rest (teak here is 700 USD per cubic meter, mahogany is 800USD/QM)

    There are no issues here for license in our area. And I had in mind the cost will not go to 250k USD with professional building quality for the hull but; used mast / eng, / AC and others but like new.

    I was thinking of a CAT for more than a year. But I conclude that mono is better and mainly because of the noises of a CAT hitting waves, are very bad.

    I am also planning to bring in a boat builder at the start of construction to supervise my good carpenters who knows how to build boats in the old methods.
     
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  5. aymanisamana
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    Yes I have more than 10.
    I know James Wharram design and I like it very much (although his boats are between CAT & CANOY )and I had in mind Schionning design but the price was sky high and yet I removed the idea of CAT but still inside of me I like Wharram boat a lot.

    I need a design that will rock so that when I make my boat and people around me see it they will ask me to build for them, with wharram design people will not say WOW.
    I got a 65ft design but I don’t want it because too small. In my mind is something like these:

    TEMPUS FUGIT http://www.boatinternational.com/yachts/the-superyacht-directory/tempus-fugit--57925


    CNB 76 - CNB Yachts http://en.cnb-yachts.com/CNB-Yachts/Yachts/CNB-76


    http://www.classic-yacht-design.com/5bigyachts/1prettycreole/pc.html
     
  6. jorgepease
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    Yeah those are beauties!! Where are you from?? Where are yo ubuilding this?
     
  7. aymanisamana
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    aymanisamana Junior Member

    I am from Saudi Arabia but I live in Bahrain a small island.
    My shop is next to the bridge between these too countries.
     
  8. jorgepease
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    Nice! I lived in Dhahran and other areas for seven years when I was younger.
     
  9. aymanisamana
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    These are sections of a 35m yacht I took from a factory in turkey sometime ago
    This yacht was shipped to America
     

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  10. aymanisamana
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    I was born in Alkhobar and lived in Dhahran, graduated from cali state university (EE) and worked in Aramco for 15 years as plant and project engineer and I resign opened my shop and started a new work
     
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    lol, my dad worked for Aramco for awhile. He was a diplomat first and then went into consulting. Best shawarma ever in Alkhobar!! I also plan to open a shop building yachts, looking for a good place to do that. I want to do it in Croatia but the expense may be too great.

    That is pretty wood!!!!!
     
  12. aymanisamana
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    Also Croatia has a trade agreement with USA and so do Bahrain.
    Maybe we need to discus this over the phone later on.

    A problem here with this business is low market due to lack of Mariana services starting with marinas! Unlike Dubai, I remember an Italian who hade a shop for classic 10m motor boats and he was copying like "Ford" and shipping to Italy.
    Perhaps you pass me your mobile and ill give you a call in few days
     
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  13. aymanisamana
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    aymanisamana Junior Member

    Speaking of shawarma,
    A very good store is 1km from my house for about 1USD each!
     

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    Making me hungry! lol )) We don't have good shawarma here, falafel they make ok but shawarma they don't have the right ingredients. I miss that a lot!
     

  15. aymanisamana
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    aymanisamana Junior Member

    Back to boat design, any comments or help people!:)
     
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