Delaunay Sharpie 470

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  1. cluttonfred
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    Sharpie 470 Plans PDF https://duckworks.com/sharpie-470/

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    I am still deciding on a boat to build and use as a trailer sailer on rivers and lakes and coasts in France, generally alone or with one other person, maybe going for a spin with one or two more, and occasionally camp-cruising for a night or two in a minimalist cabin.

    A boat that could be rowed out of the marina would be nice though I would have a small (2-4 hp) motor or possibly just a good electric trolling motor to access lakes that don’t allow other kinds.

    I am trying to stick to lightweight boats in the 100-300 kg (220-660 lb) weight range to keep the loaded trailer under 500 kg (1100 lb) and ideally less.

    skaraborgcraft toward this little gaff-rigged sharpie (leg-o’-mutton optional) with a small cabin by Jérôme Delaunay. I knew of Delaunay's designs and had dismissed them as too "spaceship" for my taste, but I do like the traditional styling but modern taped seam plywood construction of Sharpie 470 so it seems like a good fit.

    I would love to hear feedback on the design, designer, construction method, etc. For context, I built and own a 14’ Bolger June Bug of similar hull form though mine has only ever been used as a rowboat.

    Cheers,

    Matthew

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  2. skaraborgcraft
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    Matthew, again i see you are on the end of "this is what i like and what i think you should build with your time, money and effort". Its certainly common in that other forum, though sometimes a real nice boat comes out of nowhere that fits the bill.
    From what I understand, the plans consist only of drawings and dimensions. Not a problem for some, but no actual instructions that some people like to follow. His plans are drawn to EU standards RCD (unsinkable), should you need to insure it, i have no idea about boat registration in France or if its needed for a non-commercial. I dont really like the use of plywood for framing except for bulkheads, as it works out far more expensive than plain 45x25mm, but that is more of an issue on some of his larger boats than this simple one, and my dislike for bogging fillets on both sides of a plywood frame than simple screw and glue. Plenty simple and strong both ways, just different methods.
    As for the sharpie, it could certainly fulfill your expected use, though maybe a little bit wet in choppy stuff due to low freeboard. Every boat a compromise. Just for comparison purposes, check out Michalaks AF3.
    AF3 Plans PDF (duckworks.com)
    I believe the plans now also show a balanced lug rig. If there is a major advantage to AF3, the rig can be handled while standing on the sole, not on the deck, due to the deck slot cabin. Sleeping 2 is a squeeze.
     
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    Lonnie Blacks AF3.
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    Just for perspective. I built a sail canoe instead, but missed out on "comfortable" overnighting at anchor, which i realised i missed when i couldnt do it. Not much to choose between the 2 i would say, whatever floats your boat!
     
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    Thanks for the suggestions, I am very familiar with Jim Michalak, I have his design book and have been following since he used to have just a little website. Since I have already built multiple small, simple boats, I feel like I want to try my hand a something a little more sophisticated. I absolutely do see the appeal of something like AF3 but it just doesn't spark my imagination.
     
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    I can see some similarities between the sharpie and that Bolger boat. I totally understand the imagination spark thing, for some reason i have an affinity with deck access rather than a companionway.......i have no idea why, deck access only is a PITA for getting stuff in and out, but so it goes.
    I have always understood the downside of building a boat that may not have re-sale value, but whats the point of building a boat that is not what you want? Build what puts a smile on your face, and the re-sale becomes just a number. There are worse things to waste money on than getting outside and afloat in nature under a starry sky in a muddy creek or on a sandy beach. Without dreams and imagination.......what point?
     
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