Dealing with pirates

We're back on the understanding issue.

This is the problem with the 'sivilized' western world. You always find ways to justify crimes committed by this lot, and it suits them so well so why the f would they even attempt to do anything decent, you convince them that it is justified that they continue their crime.

If you justify their action you become their accomplice. Yes you do. You are supporting them by finding ways why they are doing what they are doing.

So next time don't complain when they pirate your boat, you just justified it.




So, what about countries that doesn't have a coastline, can they also throw their toys out of the cot now.

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It's not an issue of understanding.. I can tolerate a lot of things that in don't understand and stand against other things I understand well..

What I do understand there wasn't much what we can call piracy, civil war, robbing clans etc before a couple of "superpowers" messed up the place. Got to think hard to find a place where outsiders intervention has created something better... think think think .................................................... no.. thing.. comes.. to.. mind.. ANYONE!

 

I was almost going to suggest Japan/Taiwan - then opted for the less politically sensitive option in quotes

I see no point in discussing options "which ain't going to happen" and the only permanent solution is fraught with long term and short term unacceptable risk - - so - - very expensive patrolling and convoy escorts are the only current response...

 

Something like that was evident bcs of "" ""
In the future we are going to see much more international incidents due the rise of Chinas economical "colonialism". Yankees and Russians know a sh** about abuse of the world compared to them..

 

You're off topic now, resolve the issue at hand. Other countries have nothing to do with this.

You can wait until the pirates become financially so strong that they can put up a fleet for their piracy industry with arms and everything,

Or you can deal with it now.

Seems to me you have a little fire started, but are too ignorant to put it out and find all kinds of reason why it is ok for the fire to have started in the first place.

You're going to wait until the whole friggin house and shed around you is on fire, then you want to get the US to put your fire out.

Poor US. Seems they're the only country that has to contain every one else's problems for them.

 

They (USA) won't and the French have lost the arrogance to do it, and the rest of the world is broke from the US fiscal collapse, - - except for China, Japan & maybe Russia who are possibly helping them (pirates)... So who and what with,,, apart from 'blind Freddy' with his ***** in his hand?

 

Ah, ok so now we're getting to the root of the problem.

Nobody wants to help because suddenly there are expenses. All the US now has to do it to put out a warrant to every country to resolve the issue. If the issue has not been attended to in say 3 months (because then every one has an excuse why they can't) then the US simply gets rid of one of their nukes.

Nobody can complain, they had the opportunity to resolve the issue but didn't. It is a large economical threat, and frankly nobody on this little earth can afford to have them around just to lose more and more to them.

So we're back at the first solution. Nuke them and get it over with. The US public will throw their tantrum, the UK public will throw their tantrum and a lot of complaints and arguments will exist for about a month.

This will hoever have the following effect. Other countries that support their pirates will get rid of them immediately, within one week there won't be a pirate in sight and trade and prosperity can return to those who work for a living.




There is another solution. Your gov can subtract a small amount of your salary or income each month and give it to the somali's so they can live in luxury while you work so they don't raid the boats any more.

This way nobody gets hurt, the piracy can stop and you just have to pay a little. How about that ?

 

A pirate tax, more piracy, er no, thats socialism

 

Flippet EXACTLY !!!

You are already paying for their misconduct. Every time a ship gets taken the price of goods are incremented just a little bit.

Every time you buy a tin of jam or a bread, or something for your boat then directly or indirectly the price of that item gets impacted, and you pay that whether you like it or not.

 

This is why we moan and groan and ***** about the crime we have here every opportunity we get. If there is just that slim slither of a chance the US mil can pitch up here wearing their grey coats and guns and wave a finger at the SA gov to stop crime or else...

Think I'm happy about our currency being ten times weaker than the US $ ? No I don't get paid ten times more I can just buy ten times less despite working ten times harder. If the US guys think they have it tough, then imagine what it must be like here.

 

Give us ten years... and have you seen ACORN territory (South-side Chicago, etc.)?

 

My reading of other insider (US resident derived views) is that it will happen ten times sooner than your estimate mark.... In an article out on the last weekend - NO Canadian banks have collapsed since 1021? (- I may be wrong on the date - failing memory and laziness), and in-numerable bank failures in USA - is there a certain deadly rot at the top levels in USA enterprises? - - permitted by a rather apathetically disinterested populace that by default have allowed such a disease to fester and eat the heart out of a once great community...

 

There were no Canadian banks in 1021, but you knew that I'm sure. We seem to be once again trying to rationalize bad behavior and explore its roots. That's all well and good, but first the bad behavior must be punished and prevented. Perhaps if some of the naval vessels with deck guns, preferably big ones, started shelling the palaces the pirate leaders own. Real easy to pick them out at night, they are the ones with electricity. Oddly enough, the pirate leaders are the same radical clan leaders who have kept the country destabilized to insure their dominance of their little fiefdoms. Or we could stand offshore with some dead pirates hanging from the stern of a navy ship by their heels. The clan leaders respect ruthlessness. Sadly though, the U.N. will most likely respond with tons upon tons of aid to be delivered to the clan leaders so they can increase their fortunes by selling food aid to the starving minions they keep under their heel.

 

Canadian ship helps thwart pirate attack
Updated Sun. Apr. 19 2009 6:14 PM ET

CTV.ca News Staff

Prime Minister Stephen Harper is praising the crew of a Canadian warship after they helped chase and detain Somali pirates who tried to attack a Norwegian tanker in the Gulf of Aden.

Speaking to reporters at the Summt of the Americas in Trinidad and Tobago, Harper said the crew had done "tremendous work" in the operation.

He also noted that Canada had "acted within our legal authority and also within our capacities."

HMCS Winnipeg, patrolling with other NATO vessels off the Horn of Africa, responded to a mayday call issued by the Norwegian-flagged vessel Front Ardenne after a band of pirates approached the vessel late Saturday, officials said.

The pirates fled after the Front Ardenne alerted nearby warships.

The Winnipeg gave chase, along with U.S. and British ships, and warning shots were fired to get the pirates to stop, Canadian military officials said. After several hours of pursuit, Canadian sailors boarded the small skiff and detained the group.

They found a rocket-propelled grenade, said HMCS spokesperson Michael McWhinnie. But after further interrogation, the pirates were released.

"We obviously act within our legal capacities, and also within our capacities," said Harper. "In this case we briefly detained the pirates and disarmed them, and I think those were the appropriate measures under those circumstances.

"Obviously, Canada always uses force when necessary, but only when necessary."

Canadian forces had to release the pirates because they cannot be prosecuted under Canadian law as they did not attack Canadian citizens or interests and no crime was committed in Canadian territory, NATO officials said.

Pirates have attacked more than 80 boats this year, about four times than in 2003, according to the International Maritime Bureau.

Pirates currently control at least 18 ships and hold more than 300 crew hostage.

HMCS Winnipeg and the American ship USS Halyburton, which also took part in this weekend's operation, are part of an anti-piracy NATO force patrolling the Gulf of Aden, a busy transport short cut between Europe and Asia.

With files from The Associated Press

 

Nukes were used with good reason to end WWll without a land invasion of Japan and the books are being re-written using words like "evil".
It has been discovered that war that doesn't hurt much is folly but we have the capability to make it sting like hell with conventional weapons so why not?
Not only that, is this piracy as pervasive as all that? Couldn't we do as was suggested and hit well lit areas and call it good? Aren't there some Western hostages that need to be accounted for first?
I've got some friends from near there...they call me Bwana Mark. They laugh, play, joke, love, work, just like we do. The leader of the group is a fisherman and as little as two years ago, he (Hussein is his name) visited me in Alaska and showed some pictures of some pretty impressive catches including tuna, lobster, and octopus (granted, the tuna are pelagic but the others are signs of local health) I am unwilling to believe it is necessary to kill them because they live near pirates.