Dealing with pirates

Perfect weapon to take out pirates. 12 ga. fully auto.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wg1pFNwTOE&NR=1

After knowing how the pirates were taken-3 shots to 3 heads-at the same time I know why our captain jumped into the sea. He must have been covered in gore. Head shots are not pretty.

 

That is good news - but only just a start.... there are still matters in need of prosecution in NY banking system as well as follow up on yesterdays rescue and to clean up adjacent areas where the captives are still held...

mark775, - - Is that quote modified for your convenience? - - "... given the choice between cowardice and violence - choose violence with *******s who commit piracy...." - - Reply With Quote source please, and refrain from ignorant petulant stuff like - - "...Mas, get busy filling the thread with your substitute for thoughtful insight - graphs and bitterness with the U.S. because of your failures. Are you muslim, perchance?..." - - or do you seek to affirm your reputation in twittering...

All firearms are KILLING devices and be very afraid of the pirates choice, (AK47 or Kalashnakov) as it has a fearsome reputation that would get my undivided attention when held by a pirate - I have been confronted with someone holding one and became VERY careful, instantly.... - - I have served my country Australia) and am on a veterans pension.... Pull your own dick - mine is my business...

RHP, rather than a new post,

One can only hope so - but we will see it when we see it - like the USA acknowledging and fixing its part in this global recession/depression, instead of printing more money, fix the root cause - lack of prosecution of the Wall St pirates, enforcing sensible legislation which allows a free and open economy to function without . . protectionism, favours fixes, fiddles and pork-barreling, printing trillions of US$ and so forth . . or just a matter of returning their collective heads to the comfort of placing same under the sands of obscuration from the truth.... USA collectively claims it has a free economy - sadly lost long ago - shortly after the battles of independence (know and understand your history behind the "public perceptions")

 

A strong precedent has been set, the pirate indutry might rue today as the day the tide turned against them.

 

I would expect a multi national force will now go in to take out the nests and get the hostiges out. I picture night drops of men from the air in several locations followed by Hovercraft running right up on to the land and inland with more fresh troops. Who would do this???? US, GB, AU, FR, RU and maybe even China as they have several people hostage. It will happen just as soon as we (US) locate the hostages with unmanned aircraft and other means. This is my guess but I'll bet $5.00 on it. Stan

 

"A strong precedent has been set, the pirate indutry might rue today as the day the tide turned against them."

That would be great, and I hope you are right. But despite the CNN hyperbole that the whole world is watching, there have been other cases of strong willed nations taking on individual pirate situations, and dusting the pirates with the pirate business returning to normal the next day.

I'd like to see them squash a few of the mother ships and better still track the financiers in Dubai etc... That said, if they aren't willing to really see it through, then escalating may not help much with the average situation that involves paying pirates off.

Anyway, well done USA, and well done France the other day.

 

If you research things a bit you may understand that there are several problems to overcome
1 - The whole community is beholden to the pirates for food and livelihood in a region where they were largely ignored (no aid flowed) by the western/affluent world
2 - How do you identify the pirates?
3 - How do you get those countries you label to commit to such an exercise, having still a bitter taste from being conned into removing non-existent WMD's and still paying in lives and other costs....
4 - There is no gung-ho adventurism left to spare as your USA economic collapse has delivered its virus throughout the rest of the trading world and is destroying confidence in trade because of the manipulated fluctuations in the "existing currency of trade - the US$" as a consequence of Benankies efforts to manipulate the US market in the USA recovery manoeuvres - - are destroying all global trade... Even if the "toxic debt issue" had not had any impact overseas.... Need I go on - I could add dozens more?

Read, research, try to understand the other view, and maybe you will understand that unless the global market is free to operate without "political intervention and internal need for domestic manipulation", because you claim the US$ as THE currency of global trade, (which may fluctuate by more than 6% on a daily basis), the USA has external global obligations which it is NOT KEEPING... This has an impact on everything and everyone in the rest of the world... including a lack of interest in following the USA "lead" against piracy, and down to my angst at having plans delayed because of USA bank/govt., market manipulation...

FIX your internal affairs without causing grief around the rest of the world or find yourselves the victims of the greed and incompetence of the leaders (and I am not talking about B Obama et-al, but the MONEY CONTROLLERS)... China, Russia, Japan & others are already making noises about abandoning the US$ as the currency of trade... If that happens your USA economy will collapse overnight and you will never recover, as most of your manufacturing has been sent offshore in the quest for greater profits... What will you sell? - - What will you produce ? - - What can you export? - - You will not be able to afford to import any fuel.... Those offshore could well seek possession of the assets they hold by foreclosure....

Time to wake up and face the cold hard truth.....

 

Strong points Mas which I will come back to but I want to make one short point - 6 ships were taken this week.

We (the world) are in great danger of losing control of this key shipping area and quite simply unless the task force in the region changes its tactics it has lost.

Put all politics to one side, this is a key issue that will spark off copy-cat piracy around Indonesia, West Africa and other parts of Africa unless it is resolved immediately. They've tried the softly-softly approach and its failed. For the sake of sanctity of maritime law and safe passage at sea - they need to go snuff these fellows out in their beds.

 

RHP, I agree with you wholeheartedly, but I think I posted earlier, I will believe it when I see it.... sadly...

 

When a ship gets taken it means many lost man hours, big financial loss, frustration and loss of income. It also causes a general disruption in normal trade, scheduling... the list is arm long.

Imo, money or no money, corrupt bank or poor economic state, the issue will have to be attended to. Maybe not on a scale one would expect, but the situation would be handled with a no nonsense view. That or face enless future loss. Or no future trading.

Assuming that the US$ may regain it's strength, trade with the US is sought after anyway. China for one may have a similar interest in getting rid of the pirates, they are per se' the 'main' distributors of many goods.

One should never underestimate a seemingly poor situation, there are always underlying power not obviously visible.

 

I still have a $5.00 bet the nests will be taken out and the hostiges rescued.

 

Now just substitute atm robbers, bank robbers, gangs or whatever you wish in the place of pyrates in your points and you have about what we have here. Parts of the community that gain from whatever the crooks bring in would attempt to protect them, but with a little psychology and technique they get sniffed out. Intimidation always work.

 

I admit I did not dig deep for an indepth analysis of the situation, just what is in my view at present and How will the USA pay for the Goods when the currency is dumped through lack of continued faith in a fiat currency with NO COLLATERAL to back it up... Would you sell your boat on the understanding that when it gets there you will get paid? - NO, the usual deal is FOB (ie paid for when at the port of dispatch and assigned/booked as cargoe) - in effect usually paid before then but in that basis... then the purchaser has to add his margin, freight, duties and importing taxes etc and if going to a non usa country what will the exchange rate there do to his cost of purchase if he gets stung by another disadvantageous exchange rate change.... situation becomes no confidence in being able to make a deal that can hold - or imbed 12 or more % and become un-competitive and end up with goods you cannot sell....

 

A local scene is a little less difficult to resolve

rasorinc, $5 zimbabwe? equivalent? I can afford to post you the eggshell but you may end up paying a big fine for the import

 

Any country that gets into a difficult situation cuts back on some expenditure. We have to also, and also due to mismanaged resources. It means corrective actions have to be taken or go totally bankrupt, an unlikely scenario. Many countries the world over came out bankrupt and poor after ie a war, but they always recover. It is only in africa where the resources gets so destroyed by the inhabitants themselves that they die of hunger and despite that does nothing to uplift themselves.

 

That is what I am getting at - - USA it seems, is determined to go down a similar path to that which Zimbabwe took, and look at it now.... similar arrogance in the bureaucrats and in particular the Money controllers headed in the Fed, (a PRIVATE BANK owned by the major banks), by Bernankie...

This man is hoping to engender a soft landing like Greenspan, his predecessor did, only to set up for the next bubble and the end-game crash...