Dealing with pirates

Discussion in 'All Things Boats & Boating' started by dave L, Nov 22, 2004.

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  1. TeddyDiver
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    A gallop with a dummy dressed as a pirate hanging out?
     
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  3. brian eiland
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    As I watched this video, I had two reactions. Yes, it would be a fine weapon against those deserving pirates. I have NO pity for them.

    On the other hand I've thought for years now, how we should be employing the brains and money that is spent making these Weapons to kill our fellow man, and redirect even a small portion to creating an alternative fueled vehicle, and converting some of our global energy demand away from oil. Just those two subjects would be mind-blowing developments, technically and economically. :idea:

    HOW MUCH MORE PRODUCTIVE THAT WOULD BE !!!!!:!:

    In fact we might alleviate some of the poverty, and hopeless lives, that drives these pirates and terrorist to radical reaction.

    PS: I was involved in the defense industry for some number of years, and I've experienced much of the waste-fullness of it. General & President Eisenhower warned us of this situation we've now come to:
    "Jan 1971. My fellow Americans, this evening I come to you with a message of leave-taking and farewell and to share a few final thoughts with you, my countrymen. We have been compelled to create a permanent armament industry of vast proportions. Three-and-a-half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. The total influence, economic, political, even spiritual, is felt in every city, every state house, every office of the federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development, yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."

    (Had Mr Cheney found a way to remain in office for 4 more years, I could just imagine those gunships flying over America in pursuit of those he defined as anti-American while the NSA served him up a list of dissenters unhappy with our economic woes and increasingly high unemployment. And without Writ of Habeas, a person had no avenue to object by court presentation)
     
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    Mike, you're an optimistic feller. If and IF you get a shot in with your flare gun, chances are good they will shoot you first.

    There are no such a thing as warning shots. If you get a shot in it better be where it counts. Of one thing I can guarantee you, you will not get any chance at all. They are not going to shoot warning shots. This is something you better work out in you mind before you get into that situation.

    If you yourself get shot, or wounded then the boat and whatever else is on that boat will be at their mercy. Don't rely on your puppies too much. It's nothing to take a dog out. In my opinion it is only going to add to the confusion and distract your attention, more for you to look out for.

    There are other surprises you can have aboard instead. For instance, a healthy supply of peppergas or if you can get hold of real teargass canisters you can have them really uncomfortable if they are downwind from you. After a second attempt they may rethink if it gets bad enough for them.

    Personally I wouldn't think twice about taking a real firearm. Legal or not when the situation justifies it then it would not matter if the firearm is legal or not. Better put it where nobody would ever find it.
     
  5. Fanie
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    Fanie Fanie

    If the various countries are so serious about piracy as they indicate, why don't they offer some bait for the pirates. Have a couple of civy boats float about the area. If a pirate boat tries his luck the navy gets to do a bit of excersize. At least the navy gals will get a nice sun tan and they can be sure the rest of the navy will be watching them very closely :D

    How difficult can this be ?
     
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    I had one of those electric gattling gun on my boat, didn't work for ****, charges kept going to ground in the water! I think they only work from choppers.
     
  7. RHP
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    The British government introduced a policy 250 years ago to hunt for pirates and kill them. Eventually put them all out of business (Blackbeard and all) and only the same policy will achieve a result. Navies on the sea, special forces on land, all over in 6 months.

    "Go get 'em Floyd."
     
  8. SAIL ELAN

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    Remove hunger, greed, the cost effectiveness of doing the wrong things for the "right reasons", and the justifications of looking the other way... You will THEN solve the pirate issues, the supposed drug war, and about all else. Until then, it is apparently up to the individual to make the best choice in their particular situation. That said... here are the thwarted piracy attempts that I have been told of:

    I knew a minister who had built his own steel boat in Africa; and had extensive experience cursing about the world. I personally saw the electrified rails that he said had saved him on at least two occasions. He said that he would hear someone screaming, a bang, or splash, on at least two occasions. He said that he "found evidence" of attempted boardings; but had refused giving out further details. He said he had cut anchor and ran away on one of those occasions.

    I had met some at a boat show were recounting their details of a fishing trip where their capt chartered fishing boat had been approached by an unmarked black high-speed boat with men pointing a guns at them, refusing to identify, all while making all apparent attempts to come along and take over the sport fishing boat. Their capt' said told them to keep call while he went in the cabin. The Capt then stepped out and reputably blew up the oncoming craft with some kind of over the shoulder rocket; and requested that the story not be told. They also said that they heard of no reported missing craft afterwords. Lucky the USCG, or worse, never found that rocket. They could have just as well been alive and in a prison.

    Again, it is my opinion that you avoid this stuff if you can; or take only the precautions that you and those with you can live and die with. I don't condone a thing.
     
  9. Fanie
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    Well Sail, that is good news. No other boat has any business near yours.

    We already have audio discoordination, flare guns, real hidden guns, pepper gas, electric rails, kind of over the shoulder rockets, dogs....

    what else ?
     
  10. SAIL ELAN

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    These were not my boats.
     
  11. Fanie
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    He he... Someone I knew (passed away since) got fed up with his house getting raided. He found some explosives and built it with a backup battery and a pager into a new DVD player (wiring was done strictly within legal requirements) The trap was set :D

    They did break in again, stole everything except the new DVD player. Maybe they felt bad for ripping the guy off so many times :D
     
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    We're not condemning your actions there Sail, you have our full support :D
     
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    you sure you got that right? the spelling I mean? so OK maybe by the sound of it you are right:rolleyes:
     
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    Early methods were the best methods. You cannot reason or offer long term rehabilitation to them. They live for the moment and cannot be educated.
    Waste them........................................................................
     

  15. Fanie
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    Fanie Fanie

    Well Rasorinc,

    Are you talking about pirates or SA.

    I (we) live the dream here, Rasorinc. Haven't slept again tonight, alarms going off. Thankfully it's only once so far this week :(
     
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