Dealing with pirates

I have a friend that encountered pirates somewhere in Southeast Asia. He told me the story a long time ago, when he had just returned. Its not something that has since come up in conversation, but it clearly rocked his world.

My recollections from that time are that he was a passanger on an open ocean ferry that was island hopping. The "pirates" -- that's far too romantic a term for what these people do -- had a very fast boat. They came out of no where. The ferry was boarded, crew murdered, the ferry taken with its handful of passangers including my friend, where they were robbed of their possessions, forced into ship duty, starved, beaten, and repeatedly *****. For some reason it sticks in my mind that one of the passengers was also murdered by simply tossing them over board in open waters.

Eventually the survivors were released somewhere. It took some time to get to civilization and the "police." Eventually he returned the States and to my knowledge has not travelled over seas since, an d by any means.

I have no desire to sail dangerous waters where pirates are a significant concern. My understanding is these are relatively isolated seas -- West Africa, some of the Caribean waters, and Southeast Asia.

Best advise I've read, which was on this website under another thread, is don't go packing because you cannot out gun these guys and the police are part of the problem. The criminals have far bigger, better and faster stuff than you can afford. The police and coastal guards turn a blind eye and may even participate in the game somehow. If captured do what you are told, give them what they want, and do what it takes to survive.

Personally speaking I've no desire to be anywhere near pirated waters or the police that protect them.

 

Welcome harlemriver, yep that's more or less the loose (very loose at time) theme of this forum, when we ain't busy insulting each other, grovelling around each other after we've gone over the top or just plane slagging off the world (and that's just me - still ain't figured what the others are doing) and the main question is do we go loaded for bear and blas the *** of anybody who sticks his nose above the parapet or do we go all meek and mild get shagged rotten give in, roll over and hope we're left alone? Of course if we are left alone the question don't arise but we mainly argue (and boy are there some arguments) about what if? (an' some have) Phew! Welcome to the fray!

 

Thank you for the warm welcome Mr. Safewalrus! I enjoy the exchanges on this forum. Many a good laugh and insights into boating!

You learn a lot about crime living in America. There are two basic rules. First, don’t give a criminal an opportunity. There are streets to not walk and waters to not sail. Second, you can replace a wallet but not a life.

There are times when we fight in order to survive or defend loved ones. Its a judgment call that none of us will know until we find ourselves in these most unfortunate situations. Be prepared. Keep your cool. Element of surprise is 80% of the fight. Do not hesitate. And above all else do not rise to a knife fight holding a stick.

You would need a mighty big stick to take on government sponsored high crimes at sea that fall under the protection of police and paramilitary forces. What we’re really talking about here is unregulated, privatized tax collection agencies for 3rd world governments. I’ll willingly pay my tariffs elsewhere, thank you very much. There are plenty of lovely vacation places around this world.

 

harlemriverman.
Nice to hear some one talk sence on this thread at last. Most peple here just wanna go out and blast everyone like they were invincible Bruce Willis, just cant be done.

Not only that as I have said before just owning a little gun will get you a serious load of trouble with authorities before you get to sea.

Its not a nice situation to be in but its all you got.

Im being serious now-- the only chance you have is in actual fact to have a small hand gun that you tell NO ONE about. If you are pirated and things get very bad, you have the opportunity of saving your life or a loved one by a quick kill to the head by the gun in the back of your shorts.

Down below is a confined area on a yacht and it is likely the the pirates will have rifles, these will be cumbersome in such a confined space. This is a further opportunity to push the barrel away and again a very quick kill.

You have then opened hell, those on top have now to be dealt with. If they dont run and you could be lucky, it is really the end of the game, Shame it was so close.

 

Careful Jack your moving around to our way of thinking! Sense is moving into your addled brain at last!

 

*****URGENT MESSAGE FOR JACK FROST*****

Some nefarious ******* has pirated your name!

 

jack is a fairly dangerous man,,a double knot spy,,,,,,,,he has his bases covered,,on land you will get the accountant , (to put you under),,,,,off shore you will get the gun,,,surely not one to play cards with,,,,lest the darranger under the table ,,,,,,,,,,,,damn Englishman,never could trust one ,,longliner

 

I thought my 180 degree turn in tactics would raise eyebrows. The thing is I havent changed any tactics at all, just let the cat out of the bag. Every one will have an idea --or two.

The last thing I want to do is encourage weapons on board.

After long and lengthy discussions with other sailors at the bar and some having direct experience, it was carefully thought out over many weeks that a small hand gun might be the only way around all of the problems associated with fire arms and owning them.

Planning different senarios and challenging each others it became clear that a small hand gun may give you some choice in your death, even if it were to shorten the life of a loved one.

The small hand gun would not be used untill the piracy was under way and had got threatening , otherwise you give them your wallet, but if they start shooting then you might-- might- just might have a small window of opportunity to survive.

The beauty of this approach--if there is any, is totall surprise. To find that you were armed at this stage will be a totall shock to them and to your benefit.

All depending on your boat, your crew, how many pirates, etc etc etc etc.

The next all important decision is which one first, nearest or furthest?


Now after all this I am not, repeat not doing a Walruss standing on deck with a ridiculous anti aircraft gun. Wulrusses tactics will kill you all in the shortest possible time. Of that there is no doubt.

 

Now showing at a theatre near you. Jack Frost's new movie "Naked Gun 3.2" not sure what number we're up to.

C'mon Jack what else have you got stashed away?

Reckon if you want to kill the geezer below, you've got to get him with a knife, no noise, go for the throat. Then move up to the deck to tackle the others.

I'm going to buy a boat and travel to the pirate areas, gotta have a go at this.

Thanks Jack
Poida

 

Well I havnt got one yet, but when I do I wont tell anyone that Ive got it,-- refer page#511

I might get one anyway because of bird Flu. I have a feeling that if this bird Flu thing hits the fan I shall be off to a desert island around here till all of you is dead.

I will probably go for a shiny one ,I dont like the black ones. ----Thats the gun not the Island.

But while thats happening and city life is murderous and well just mayhem there will be a shortage of guns because everyone will want one. I will need one to keep other yachties away from me and my little island.

I would imagine that the other yachties will want to steel my fuel and potato chips and my pot noodles ( seafood flavour).

Hopefully the pirates will have Bird Flu and die off pretty quickly. I dont think I will have enough bullets for everybody.

Oh by the way seafood flavour is best because if you can catch a bit of you own you can put it in. If you had chicken flavour it wouldnt be very nice.

 

I HEAR WOT YUR SAYIN" jACK ME BOY.

God now I'm sounding like Walruss. Help me.

Bird flu, chicken flavour avoid it like the plague, is that how you spell plague? That thing where everybody dies from something (bring out yer dead)

This world has nothing to worry about from Pirates, Global Warming or Bird Flu.

Fish flu, if that happens were all fornicated.

We have a bloke here in Ozz, who has a show on telly, when he catches a fish he kisses it and throws it back.

I've given up fishing in case I catch one he's kissed.

I reckon catching wot he's got would be worse than catching wot anybody's got that got something that's really bad.

I think it's time to go.

poida

 

Jack if you got a poblem with the bid flu best you take a leaf outa my book mate. Get yourself a big shotgun and if a chicken walks up to you with a runny beak and watery eyes and asks to borrow your hankerchief blow his bloody head head off (still you should get a nice spot of soup out of it!)

 

Walrus --Do you kill everything you see? What if the little chicken was only crying because he was lost, he may not have had bird flu ( bird flu is not transmitted like that anyway).

Then you come along --totally misinterpret the situation as usuall, and kill everything. You need to think about medication, or some threrapy.

 

Nope just following my Governments lead - they killed 15000 turkeys 'cos one of em sneezed and was hungry or was it from hungry not sure but hell Kill zem all!! Turkey zoop here we come!

 

Stick with me Jack, there may be a lot of deaths around but you feed well! Medication isn't that in Southern Europe or is that the Mediteranian or something?