Dealing with pirates

Discussion in 'All Things Boats & Boating' started by dave L, Nov 22, 2004.

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  1. Frosty

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    Boy you guys are quick off the mark. Give it a while to get the truth from this lying cheating world.

    I have'nt seen the evidence from south Korea yet.

    Remember the weapons of mass destruction that Saddam was supposed to have ---slow down.
     
  2. Milan
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    Wow! I’ll reconsider my plans for the weekend. I was supposed to go paintballing with couple of friends. Didn’t now I might get killed. :)

    Rather fortunate they sent reservists with paint ball guns. If they can make such a carnage I can imagine what would heavily armed elite troops achieve.

    Hmm, then they would also shoot 81 years old former US ambassador and 63 years old US navy veteran.

    Wise advise. Then again, although information’s are rather sketchy, don’t you think that if Israelis found anything even remotely looking as a weapon of some other bad stuff that it would allready be all over media, day and night?
     
  3. Brent Swain
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    They dropped onto the decks in the night, from helicopters , heavily armed, onto unsuspecting, unarmed, pacifist aid workers, in international waters , killing many, and who were the victims? The guys dropping out of the night sky , killing aid workers , in international waters, according to Israel. Does anyone believe that? Duhhh!!
    The aid workers thought they were being attacked by pirates! Really? What would possibly give them that idea?
    In South Africa, the claim is that the finest climate in the world, with a huge game supply, in a crowded continent, was largely unoccupied, before the white man came.
    Revisionist history makes some pretty absurd claims to justify crimes against humanity. Amazingly, some are gullible enough to keep believing them, and insulting enough to suggest we should all believe them.
    The fact that they were attacking the Turks , members of NATO , should be interesting, in the coming days..
     
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    Unarmed my ***.
     
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    What a total crock. Those people on the ships weren't 'unarmed pacifist aid workers.' They were anti-Israel activists. And they weren't singing 'Kumbayah' and 'Give Peace a Chance' when they swarmed the Israelis with knives and baseball bats; they were yelling "Khaibar, Khaibar, O Jews! The Army of Muhammad will return! Khaibar, Khaibar, O Jews! The Army of Muhammad will return!"

    Khaibar was the Jewish oasis stronghold that Muhammed attacked and conquered in what is now Saudi Arabia, in the year 629 AD. Although he allowed the Jews to stay, on condition they turned over half their produce every year as tribute, Caliph Umar expelled them all a few years later anyway--and confiscated their lands, homes and businesses for Muslims.
     
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    Associated Press

    updated 4:24 p.m. PT, Wed., June 2, 2010

    PARIS - The Turkish Islamic charity behind a flotilla of aid ships that was raided by Israeli forces on its way to Gaza had ties to terrorism networks, including a 1999 al-Qaida plot to bomb Los Angeles International Airport, France's former top anti-terrorism judge said Wednesday.

    The Istanbul-based Foundation for Human Rights and Freedoms and Humanitarian Relief, known by its Turkish acronym IHH, had "clear, long-standing ties to terrorism and Jihad," former investigating judge Jean-Louis Bruguiere told The Associated Press in a telephone interview.

    Bruguiere, who led the French judiciary's counterterrorism unit for nearly two decades before retiring in 2007, didn't indicate whether IHH now has terror ties, but said it did when he investigated it in the late 1990s.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37477182/ns/world_news-europe/
     
  7. Brent Swain
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    There are lies , damned lies and statistics , 90% of which are made up on the spot. The Israeli propagand, and disinformation machine is well financed.
    They had to be incredibly dense , incredibly arrogant , or both to have not waited for the boats to leave international waters before attacking. Duuhhh!!!
    Time for Canada to cut off all aid for Israel and ban the sending of money there.
     
  8. mark775

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    Brent Swain, are there no limits to the "DUMB" you expound?
    I know people like to root for the underdog and our liberals love to hate jews (remember National Socialist Workers' Party?) but nobody buys your ****.
    "Canadian Aid to Israel"? - There ARE no bounds!
     
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    Sure. Because the Palestinians have never massacred Olympic athletes, sent suicide bombers into hospitals, thrown old men in wheelchairs off a cruise ship, randomly fired Qassam rockets into civilian neighborhoods, thrown candy and danced in the streets after 9/11, fought running gun battles in those same streets with their political opponents after losing an election, murdered people specifically for their religion, or any of that other horrid stuff the Israelis are always doing.

    Oh wait....that isn't the Israelis, is it? Oops...
     
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    Don't fight ******** with ********, Mark. Brent is a leftist radical, not a liberal. Calling him and Cynthia McKinney liberals is like calling Timothy McVeigh and Fred Phelps conservatives.

    An overwhelming majority of American Jews - 73 percent - describe themselves as moderate or liberal; 23 percent label themselves as conservative.

    http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp509.htm

    78 percent of American Jews voted for the Obama-Biden ticket.

    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/why-jews-hate-palin-15323

    Do you think an overwhelming majority of Jews in this country would be liberals, if liberals loved to hate Jews?
     
  11. mark775

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    You have a point. G'day, gotta go.
     
  12. mark775

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    One more thing... "78 percent of American Jews voted for the Obama-Biden ticket." - Bet that doesn't happen again!
     
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    You know, Brent, it pains me to have to say every time you open your figurative pie-hole, what comes out is like the braying of a jack-***. I am sick of your stupidity. I did not want to say it but I could not stay silent one moment longer. I could say worse but I shall not.
     
  14. Milan
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    Wow! Cool down guys. As Frosty sad we don’t know much yet. As always in similar situations there is a lot of spin in the media and details are very sketchy, so we should be more careful with our conclusions.

    Instead of emotional outbursts and personal insults, it would be much better if we could rationally analyze some facts.


    Basic facts seems to be:

    Flotilla of six vessels, (one under the US flag), bound to Gaza with 10 000 tons of cargo and, up to 700 passengers from 20 countries including at least 8 US citizens. Among them were former US ambassador, former US colonel and Pentagon official, US Navy veteran, some Israeli politicians, several members of European parliament...

    Ships were boarded in international waters by the Israeli commandos who killed at least 9, possibly more and wounded tens of passengers.

    Israel claims commandos were lightly armed with paintball guns, and acted in self – defense.


    Numbers doesn’t seem to support Israelis claims.

    Practically whole world criticized Israel action, only US didn’t.

    Israel refuses international investigation – do they have something to hide?


    Troy, I read your link about Turkish Aid Organizations alleged links with terrorists during the Balkan war(s) of the nineties. They were allegedly helping Bosnian Muslims, with supplies and volunteers from Islamic countries.

    Well, NATO was doing the same at the time ...

    If firing rockets and other various explosive projectiles at civilian neighborhoods would be criteria for terrorism, there would be many, many terrorists. Remember shock and eve?


    By the way folks, reading your comments make me realize once again how big differences are between American and European politics. What Americans consider leftists positions would be on the right side of political spectrum in the most of continental EU. Our most right politicians are about as your democrats and our left politicians would be seen as communists in the US.

    Even the word liberal has completely different meaning in the EU.
     

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    Politics aside for one moment - what about piracy?
     
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