Dealing with pirates

Discussion in 'All Things Boats & Boating' started by dave L, Nov 22, 2004.

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  1. TeddyDiver
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    TeddyDiver Gollywobbler

    And what's private property... for me it's something I've been working for and achieved to get after paying all the taxes, expences of living and other sh**. So any crime in that regard it's crime against my limited time of life what cannot be refunded...
    Have a bit different point of view to sabbat, whether it's a day, a month or a year, so rather see spring cleanings during working hours :)
     
  2. Marco1
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    Marco1 Senior Member

    Sort of a professional cleaner then?

    There was a guy who started a thread about a boat for hire against piracy...dunno what happen to him...too much liberal ******** thrown around became irritating, cant blame him if he left for warmer waters... but this dude with the slang is just too much.
     
  3. mark775

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    I'm not from there, Marco, and don't always communicate well with folks from there but I believe slang may not be in the equation...and "crazy" most certainly is.
     
  4. chandler
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    chandler Senior Member

    Probably been visited before, but anyone have any idea of how much kevlar fabric would be needed to make a wooden hull bullet proof for small arms fire?
     
  5. Boston

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    I think my Jarhead friend decided it just took to much money to get it rolling and moved on to other things

    His buddies have been looking into security work at about $2000 a day and land based to they are definitely working on it

    hey Mark
    hows it going
    B
     
  6. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    ya bullet proof in kevlar is a mater of flexibility so its a whole different animal to make something solid bullet proof out of a material that works best when flexible
     
  7. ScottK
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    Kevlar Fabric

    This fiber glass hull http://oceanmaster.net/articles/article-bullet-proof.htm might give you an idea. You could just hang the fabric in your boat though, or lay it around the perimeter under the finish. Like Boston said, bullet proof vests are flexible.

    Lay up a few layers and fire some rounds into it and let us know how it works.

    Scott
     
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  9. Marco1
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    Yes, interesting take...makes you wonder.

    After all if you went to Indonesia or Somalia, not before growing a beard and dress down according to local costum, I am, sure that the locals will give you perfectly plausible resons for what they are doing. Delenda est Cartago, now is spelled down with the corrupt capitalism and the US dogs, or words to that effect.

    I am sure thta there are heaps of people even in the caribean who think piracy is a legitimate business enterprise, as it is writing viruses for computers to capture bank details and passwords.
     
  10. Boston

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    brilliant argument there Ding Dong
    Im sure if you presented it to the scientific community they would surely all admit the errors of there ways based on the strength and quality of your detailed analysis

    maybe you should right that up and present if for review and publication
     
  11. apex1

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    Probably the best decision, look at this:

    http://www.goagt.org/armed_services.php

    Regards
    Richard
     
  12. Fanie
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    Fanie Fanie

    Now you just have to decide which is more economic -

    Getting hijacked by the 'pirates' or the 'armed services'.


    For 35 000 U$D you can take your own sniper that can do a lot of good out there ... hope the guy doesn't get sea sick and likes fish.
     
  13. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    I liked the way the Russians handle it
    rain lead on anything that even looks skinny and let god sort em out
     
  14. Verytricky
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    Verytricky Large Member

    Yes.

    1) kevlar fabric as used in boat building is not the same as kevlar fabric used in bullet proof jackets. So you would have to obtain the correct fabric.

    2) 5 layers of the correct fabric will stop most small arms fire if placed against a suitable substait such as solid wood.

    3) if you laminate the fabric or glue it with resin, you loose most of the properties that stop bullets, so it has to be loosly sewn. There are then issues with water and weight. Kevlar is strong and light when dry or in a laminate. it is not when soaked!

    4) small caliber firearms are more likely to penetrate kevlar. So a .22 long will penetrate 5 layers, but a 9mm will not. The .22 will probably be stopped by the wood of the boat, after the kevlar, if the boat wood is 1cm or more thick. We used 9mm ply as a backing for our testing of jackets, and the .22 was always stopped in the ply. The 9mm ammo was always stopped in the fabric. 45 ACp and 44 magnum were touch and go if they were stopped or not. It seemed just luck, with around 75% of the rounds stopped in the fabric and 25% straight through fabric and ply. All rifle rounds penetrated both, including the .22 long rifle rounds that when used in a handgun were stopped. So the longer barrel allowed more velocity and definate penetration.

    5) Ceramic plates in conjunction with 3 layers of fabric will stop every standard handgun round and most rifle rounds. If it were my *** on the line I would have ceramic plates and 3 layers. Not over the whole boat, just over the area I was in when returning fire or driving away...
     

  15. Verytricky
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    Verytricky Large Member

    Interesting that this is a BRITISH company offering the services of a foreign military.
     
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