Cutting up and shipping a steel yacht??!!

Discussion in 'Metal Boat Building' started by pathfinder_05, Oct 7, 2008.

  1. ACuttle
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    ACuttle Marine Design Engineer

    Ignoring cost or surveying factors, if you wanted to chop a boat up then put it back together I'd have thought the best you could do is:
    Work out the biggest possible units you could manage (with respect to structural elements). I'd have thought for a hull like that you'd want one big central section as wide as possible with two wing sections - though you'd have to be careful not to loose all your vertical structure (or replace it with something else). You'd have to look quiet carefully at the structure of the boat as it stand now before choosing the cutting lines.
    Heightwise you might have a problem choosing where to split but you'd best go for somewhere you can easily access to re-weld when you come to put it back together.
    Before cutting cross brace both sides of the area the cutting line would go through - this will help stopping any torsional forces built into the hull from twisting is out of shape.
    Put on maker points at key hull areas including a fore to aft straight line of points. Also include marking points that should line up on cuts when you come to reassemble.
    Cut with a stepped cut so that the parts meet back up when reassembling.
    Ship and then reassamble, when rewelding cut back and replace with a new stepped section any severed internal structural components and replace them so that there isn't a single uniform welding line.

    Well that you be my thoughts anyway.
     
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  2. eponodyne
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    eponodyne Senior Member

    Just because you didn't get the answers you were hoping to get--that doesn't mean no help was forthcoming. The overwhelming opinion of the community (some of whom have literally forgot more about boats than you will ever learn) is that your idea is bloody stupid. Instead of recognizing this as genuine help, you choose to get all in a huff.

    So go take a **** in your hat. Then go **** straight off.
     
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  3. Wynand N
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    Wynand N Retired Steelboatbuilder

    Never assume, that is the mother of all Fu*kups...

    Small boats are not build in sections, but formed by hand from a - z piece by piece. Some plates are forced into place before welding. And welding put a lot of stress into plates and as another member tried to explained to you, the hull will twist out of shape when you try to cut it to pieces - I for one believe stiffener braces will be of little use.
    To give you an idea of the amount of welding that goes into a hull - I'm building a 43ft radius chine now and the hull only has 355 linear meters of welding on the OUTSIDE alone. Double that for the inside as well. Then add the welding to the stringers, frames etc and add the deck.....

    If you manage to cut that nice boat into chucks and achieved the impossible by getting it together again, please post a photo of the finished product - we need a few laughs around here:D I believe the end result will be disastrous.

    No one here tried to piss you off, but your outrageous suggestion mystified our minds a little and perhaps we are still from the old school. But then again, try to read between lines and see the humor intended and lighten up.
     
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  4. RHP
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    RHP Senior Member

    Life´s a box of chocolates and I would like to thank Pathfinder for cheering me up on what has been otherwise, a pretty shitty day.

    Thanks mate and dont forget to take the glue.
    Richard
     
  5. lazeyjack

    lazeyjack Guest

    hey Rich
    do you ever sign RIP? :))
     
  6. lazeyjack

    lazeyjack Guest

    WE WERE ATUALLY doing you one big favour, one day you will see thsi, good luch, , , oh not quite sure how the spar was going into container, chop it up too:)) nah seriously good luck mate, one day you will have money, then like me you can lose it again:))
     
  7. Brent Swain
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    Brent Swain Member

    I'm sure lots of cruisers would love to cruise to Chile from Spain just for the cruise if you give them lots of time to do it.
    Brent
     
  8. RHP
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    RHP Senior Member

    No. :D
     
  9. Fanie
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    Fanie Fanie

    Geeezzz, no wonder the guy has no money :D Put the thing in a container and ship it. You can always find someone else to blame if it gets out stuffed the other end. Worst case scenario you can have a big BBQ with the wood.
     
  10. Fanie
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    Fanie Fanie

    If you are so 'experienced' in life why ask anyone ? Mmmm. new to boats eh. Good luck, it's almost the same as driving your car, just a slight bit different.
     
  11. FAST FRED
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    FAST FRED Senior Member

    IF you live near a port , go and talk to some of the ship captains.

    Yours would not be the first to be hauled aboard , out of port and splashed outside a harbor , for you to sail in.

    NO money wont work , but little may.

    FF
     
  12. pathfinder_05
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    pathfinder_05 Junior Member

    I surrender!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Ok, ok........ I'm calling a ceasefire. My hands are in the air, I'm stepping away from the cutting equipment!

    I had a bad few days and some of the comments rubbed me the wrong way.

    I'm glad to have caused some humour in here....

    I'm sorry to have annoyed some folk .......

    I still have my head up my arse!

    I bid you all farewell.
     

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  13. Butch .H
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    Butch .H Senior Member

    Good Luck to you I hope you get your boat over.
     
  14. lazeyjack

    lazeyjack Guest

    dont give up!! for 5000 pounds I will cut it up very neatly for you, oh plus airfares:))
     

  15. Brent Swain
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    Brent Swain Member

    You could sell her there , and build a boat in Chile for less hassle and expense
    Brent
     
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