Cummins 4BT Purchase

Discussion in 'Diesel Engines' started by wollybugger, Dec 18, 2011.

  1. wollybugger
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    wollybugger Junior Member

    I contacted the Maryland Cummins Marine distributor and they quoted me nearly $20,000 for a new 4BT. Seems kind of high for a bread truck engine and it seems, since you need to go through a ditributor, there is no competition (and subsequent competative pricing)

    Does anyone know another source? Preferably remanufactured?
     
  2. WestVanHan
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    New ones shouldn't be much more than $5-6k and rebuilts maybe $3k,go look on ebay...there's always someone selling.

    I looked and there's a new one in Oregon.Go to google and search for..... 4BT sale.

    Total reman kits are $600...if you know a good mechanic and find a used one...
     
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  4. rasorinc
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    rasorinc Senior Member

    slow fred, that is a great link. thanks
     
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  6. FAST FRED
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    Does the boat style require a "marinized" engine?

    The usual work boat keel cooling with dry stack only requires the tranny to be hooked up , basically to a truck engine.

    NOTHING cheaper or more reliable.

    Twin Disc tranny would be my first choice (rebuilt), and I would hardly bother with a rebuild on a low time truck engine.
    50 miles on the speedo is contemplated as 1 hour of run time.

    FF
     
  7. Passin Thru
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    Hope you found one but if not , try John Deere. they are Reliable, cheap realitively and available everywhere in the US. We have one that has 2700 hrs on it and starts and runs every day. Its a 4 cyl Turbocharged Aftercooled engine. Mounts are different than a Cummins but shims can fix a lot of things.
     
  8. wollybugger
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    wollybugger Junior Member

    The boat is a Smith Island Crab Scrape (http://scrapeboatstella-r.blogspot.com/p/build.html) which has a low freeboard. I would live to say I have a Deere in it but I am concerned that it (4045) is nearly 300 pounds heavier.
     
  9. sabahcat
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    sabahcat Senior Member

    Price from TAD
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    Considerably cheaper than what I paid for mine in Australia
    $16,000 each with ZF25 gearbox.
     
  10. FAST FRED
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    FAST FRED Senior Member

    The way to get a John Deere is to go to the FARM dealer, and tell him you want a factory rebuilt , but have no core.

    A few times a year they do great pricing NO CORE REQUIRED.

    The JD dealer will call rapidly , fear not.

    A used Twin Disc and you are in businerss.

    If a wet exhaust manifold is needed , there are aftermarket sources , no need for JD prices.

    FF
     
  11. wollybugger
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    wollybugger Junior Member

    I would do that in a heartbeat ... but when I e-mailed them, they said I wasn't in their district and would have to go to the guy that quoted me 20K
     
  12. wollybugger
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    wollybugger Junior Member

    On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Trans Atlantic Diesels, Inc. <tadinc@earthlink.net> wrote:

    Due to territory restrictions we can only offer if located in Virginia. Please advise.

    Thank you.

    Sheri Moon
    Trans Atlantic Diesel, Inc.
    www.tad123.com
    (T) 804-642-9296
    (F) 804-642-0340


    All orders subject to availability at time of order.
    Quotations are good for 30 days.

    From: Robb Lake
    Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 8:20 AM
    To: Trans Atlantic Diesels, Inc.
    Subject: Cummins 4bt

    Hi,

    I am building a 30' workboat that I'd like to power with the 4bt.

    It will be keel cooled.

    How much is the complete engine package?

    Thanks,
    Robb
     
  13. Milehog
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    Milehog Clever Quip

    Pick it up in Virginia. U-Haul is your friend.

    Time to contact Cummins headquarters and complain.
     
  14. Passin Thru
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    Thanks Wollybugger, That is a lo freeboard. Been to the museum with a freind who loved the old sail boats they used to Oyster. Sad to see the last one retire. Will come by and visti one day. I'm up by Harpers Ferry. Lots of BTs on Ebay. Latr
     

  15. Passin Thru
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    Send me a note when you get one, buy me some diesel and I'll go get it.
     
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