"CRUDE" oil, an absolute must see program !!!

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  1. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    consumer memory has been studied to death
    conclusion

    three months

    slightly longer than a lemming

    "and over hear people we have a nice view of the ocean"
    "just place your valuables in these lockers"
    "and step up to the edge real quick just like"

    wwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    that
     
  2. Frosty

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    The British were the leaders in automobiles 40 years ago. The japs wiped us out too. We even lost RR a while back which in my opinion was shameful, it was more than a motor car it was England itself , shame on the queen who could have bought it with her purse money, forget profitability RR was more than that.

    The US automobile industry has no chance of survival, it makes huge gas guzzling vehicles that have been a source of amuzement to the rest of the world along with hundreds of jokes.

    The Japs have a damn near perfect car with perfect components and fit, along with this comes profit.

    Your automobile industry is dead , get over it, throwing money at that is a waste of time.
     
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  4. Frosty

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    I would like to see America drop everything they know about cars and start again with a clean sheet. After 50 years of depleating the world of fossil fuel automobiles they should now turn 180degrees and go all hybrid and alternatives.

    Now is a good time and that would be nice to see.
     
  5. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    bingo
    there could be a hole revolution in the industry and it would take over the world again

    but
    the revolutions in thought
    and that is what we are really talking about
    only come once in a generation
    we had ours
    time for a new generation
     
  6. brian eiland
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    Conservation of Fuel and Ocean Resources

    ...should make ourselves more aware of the sources of the fuels we utilize to power our craft, and how we might become more conservative with their use considering the finite supply of these fuels. Brian

    There are a number of other 'ocean management' questions most offshore boaters should become better acquainted with. Last year while visiting a friend in Lunenburg NS, I took a tour thru a very very nice marine museum they have there. Oh, but to view the wonderful and bountiful harvest of COD, etc, that once was the Grand Banks fishery !! It's FISHED OUT now!!

    I also spent some time in SE Asia, and I've seen what once was a bountiful supply of ocean food from Vietnam and Thailand. They are getting fished out as well.

    Boaters need to help with conservation of our oceans and our fuel resources.

    If you take the time to view that film 'CRUDE' I referenced at the start of this discussion, I believe you will find a VERY important link between crude oil initial formations, extractions, and the carbon molecule's loop back to the destruction of our ocean system currents. With that destruction there is likely the end of human life on the earth.
     
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    masalai masalai

    Well put Brian, It seems Bamboo has some reading and hopefully, enlightenment ahead....
     
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    the CARBON loop

    I might make the suggestion that you review just some portions of this film 'CRUDE'

    ...a YouTube presentation of the film
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...40072407639740
    (I just found a video of this film on a Google site. The sound is screwed up for the first couple of minutes, but then it seems to straighten out)

    ...now fast forward to minute 59:00 to the discussion of this 'carbon loop' that produced the very conditions that resulted in the formation of the crude oil in the first place.

    Imagine an ocean that is losing much of its sea-life, and then an anoxic event that pushes it into greater stagnation....Ocean Stagnation, it has occurred before. (1hr:02 minutes of the film)

    Then have a look at 'the engine of ocean circulation' (1hr:8min:30sec)

    Questioning anoxic events?? Take a look at some lakes in upstate New York (1:10:30)

    If we allow our oceans to die, and some of this related to our fuel (carbon molecule) managements, we may well severely challenge man's survivability on this planet.
     
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    The Leverage of Oil & Gas

    We have to stay on offense! We can’t let the new Congress and the new Administration shove our dependence on foreign oil to the back burner.

    Here’s why.
    When we started the Pickens Plan last July, oil was at about $147 per barrel, gasoline at the pump was $4.11, and we were importing about 70 percent of the oil we use. Today oil is $100 per barrel less, but we are still importing about 70 percent of our oil.

    Why is this important?
    Because we are still at the mercy of foreign governments and unstable areas of the world for our oil supply. It is still a crisis, but it’s also an opportunity for us to fix it.

    Look at the headlines from just the past couple of days.
    - Oil up $5 on OPEC cuts.
    - Russia cut off natural gas supplies to Ukraine.
    - Iran calls for oil embargo for supporters of Israel.

    Just before the holidays, OPEC met to try to raise oil prices. OPEC delivers 40percent of the daily oil supply. They decided to cut their output by 2.2 million barrels per day to try and get the price back in the $70 range. You’ve heard me tell you before that if consumption runs short of supply, then the only way to balance the books is by raising the price.

    What have we seen?
    Gasoline at the pump has jumped back over $2 per gallon in many areas and is moving back up.

    Next headline:
    On New Year’s Day, Russia cut off natural gas supplies to Ukraine in a dispute over prices and payments. According to Reuters news service, “That has hit natural gas supplies to countries in eastern and southern Europe facing freezing temperatures and has worried European countries, which get one fifth of their gas through pipelines that cross Ukraine.”

    Think about that:
    The Russian government is willing to force its customers to pay whatever price it sets by cutting off supplies; not threatening to cut off supplies, but by actually doing it in the coldest part of winter.

    We don’t rely on Russia for our natural gas. We don’t import any of it, and we have plenty of our own natural gas supply.

    The problem comes from that second headline – what happens if Iran and other Mideast and African countries decide to use oil as a weapon against us like Russia is using natural gas as a weapon against Ukraine?

    I’m not making this up. Here is what the Iranian News Agency reported over the weekend: "Pointing at Westerners' dependence on the Islamic countries' oil and energy resources, [Iranian leaders] called for cutting the export of crude oil to the Zionist regime's supporters the world over.”

    Iran understands how to leverage our over-dependence on foreign oil.

    OPEC understands how to manage output.

    We are left without any weapons in this price war.

    We have to remind our leaders in Washington that whether oil is a $50 a barrel or $150 a barrel it is the level of our dependence on foreign oil, not just the price, which puts us all at the mercy of unfriendly foreign governments and you don’t know when they will move against us.
    -- T Boone
     
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    masalai masalai

    Don't worry soon you will not be able to afford to smell an oily rag, let alone import any in significant quantities.... :D:D
     
  11. Boston

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    the sooner the better
     
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    just be careful what you wish for
     
  13. Frosty

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    Dont think so --oil has fallen back again to 43 as I write, in spite of Iran calling for embargo of all Isreal backers and OPEC cutting back!!

    America's reserves continue to rise, and you want to bail out your auto industry. The American public is speaking out ,--dont you hear it. geez its loud enough
     
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    Well said
     
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