Crash!

Discussion in 'Sailboats' started by Doug Lord, Aug 18, 2018.

  1. Doug Lord
    Joined: May 2009
    Posts: 16,629
    Likes: 307, Points: 93, Legacy Rep: 1362
    Location: Cocoa, Florida

    Doug Lord Flight Ready

    rwatson and MikeJohns like this.
  2. TANSL
    Joined: Sep 2011
    Posts: 5,899
    Likes: 233, Points: 73, Legacy Rep: 300
    Location: Spain

    TANSL Senior Member

  3. JamesG123
    Joined: Mar 2015
    Posts: 655
    Likes: 75, Points: 28, Legacy Rep: 10
    Location: Columbus, GA

    JamesG123 Senior Member

    They can't. Sailboats always have the right of way. I wonder if both were rentals?
     
  4. Doug Lord
    Joined: May 2009
    Posts: 16,629
    Likes: 307, Points: 93, Legacy Rep: 1362
    Location: Cocoa, Florida

    Doug Lord Flight Ready

    =============
    How dare you corrupt The Revolution in such a careless and meaningless way-or did I miss something!?
     
  5. BlueBell
    Joined: May 2017
    Posts: 1,020
    Likes: 149, Points: 63
    Location: Victoria BC Canada

    BlueBell Ahhhhh...

    Not when a collision is immanent.
    Then, neither boat has the right-of-way.
    There are a few other times when sailboats don't have the right-of-way.
    You should know this, it's in the Collision Regs.
     
    OzFred likes this.
  6. Doug Lord
    Joined: May 2009
    Posts: 16,629
    Likes: 307, Points: 93, Legacy Rep: 1362
    Location: Cocoa, Florida

    Doug Lord Flight Ready

    This is the second time in the last little while that I've seen a story like this. The first time was a guy on a big sportsfisherman who knew he couldn't see well and ran right into an anchored small boat in broad daylight ,calm conditions. Luckily, as I remember it, nobody was hurt that time either. They had to dive off the little boat just before-and that will be something they don't soon forget.
     
  7. JamesG123
    Joined: Mar 2015
    Posts: 655
    Likes: 75, Points: 28, Legacy Rep: 10
    Location: Columbus, GA

    JamesG123 Senior Member

    An SV can't maneuver into the path of another vessel but the most maneuverable craft has the obligation to change course and speed to avoid the collision. That would most definitely be the speed boat.
     
    fallguy likes this.
  8. TANSL
    Joined: Sep 2011
    Posts: 5,899
    Likes: 233, Points: 73, Legacy Rep: 300
    Location: Spain

    TANSL Senior Member

    Do not be angry with me, please, it was just a joke, perhaps a joke with little grace, but with no malign intent and, of course, no intention of "corrupting" anything. Excuse me for having this "special" sense of humor. In short, no, you have not missed anything.
     
  9. Mr Efficiency
    Joined: Oct 2010
    Posts: 8,140
    Likes: 393, Points: 83, Legacy Rep: 702
    Location: Australia

    Mr Efficiency Senior Member

    Not photoshopped ?????
     
  10. MikeJohns
    Joined: Aug 2004
    Posts: 3,187
    Likes: 201, Points: 63, Legacy Rep: 2054
    Location: Australia

    MikeJohns Senior Member

    Reminds me of a case here that you would think was clear cut but wasn't.

    There was an anchored boat here with the master on deck who watched a work vessel steaming straight towards him for 5 minutes and it ran straight into them. Fault was equally apportioned. No attempt was made to contact or warn the oncoming vessel and no attempt was made to get out of the way. If they had raised an anchor ball and all gone to sleep they would have been in the clear.

    In any collision it's vitally important to say that you tried to signal the burdened vessel while you also desperately tried to maneuver to avoid the collision.
     
  11. BlueBell
    Joined: May 2017
    Posts: 1,020
    Likes: 149, Points: 63
    Location: Victoria BC Canada

    BlueBell Ahhhhh...

    Sail boats do not "always have the right of way".
    You are arguing with the cal regs, not me.
    And you are sending the wrong message to vulnerable readers.
    A statement like that is going to get fellow sailboaters into unnecessary trouble.
    Who cares who had the right of way if you're dead from a stand-down vessel?
    Not a healthy attitude and certainly not what the col regs are all about.
    Think about it.
     
    fallguy likes this.
  12. fallguy
    Joined: Dec 2016
    Posts: 2,602
    Likes: 221, Points: 63, Legacy Rep: 10
    Location: usa

    fallguy Senior Member

    I think there are valid points made by both james and bluebell.

    Suppose the power vessel had already changed course and lowered speed raising the bow to the impairment of the driver and then the sail vessel reversed course.

    There are a few possibilities, but they are not likely.

    In fact, the sailing club has already stated the sailbot tried to avoid collision and was under sail at 10-12kts.
     
  13. Ike
    Joined: Apr 2006
    Posts: 2,280
    Likes: 201, Points: 63, Legacy Rep: 1669
    Location: Washington

    Ike Senior Member

    Well at least they have their lifejackets on.
     
    BlueBell likes this.
  14. JamesG123
    Joined: Mar 2015
    Posts: 655
    Likes: 75, Points: 28, Legacy Rep: 10
    Location: Columbus, GA

    JamesG123 Senior Member

    All else being equal they do. I'm not arguing the old "and I'm a light house" saw, but that part of the due diligence of seamanship is to give way to sailboats because of their relative limited maneuverability. None of which applies to idiots of course and how we get events like this.

    And people win ridiculous product liability cases too. No offense, but Australia has some goofy laws and regulations.
     

  15. BlueBell
    Joined: May 2017
    Posts: 1,020
    Likes: 149, Points: 63
    Location: Victoria BC Canada

    BlueBell Ahhhhh...

    You are arguing with the cal regs not me.
     
Loading...
Similar Threads
  1. sigurd
    Replies:
    18
    Views:
    3,669
Forum posts represent the experience, opinion, and view of individual users. Boat Design Net does not necessarily endorse nor share the view of each individual post.
When making potentially dangerous or financial decisions, always employ and consult appropriate professionals. Your circumstances or experience may be different.