Container Door size puzzles

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  1. rwatson
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    If you want to build a boat to fit in a container - whats the maximum width you have to play with ?

    Here's a variety of 'standards' for door openings to choose from.



    My Australian figures are :-

    http://masfreight.com.au/seafreight-containers.htm 2.29
    http://www.australiatrade.com.au/Shipping/ContainerSizeSales/index.htm
    2.33
    http://www.bluefreight.com/containers 2.39
    http://www.crosstrans.com/links.php...ntainer sizes and details&lid=3&proid=1&lid=3 2.339


    • "http://www.foreign-trade.com/reference/ocean.cfm"
    door size 2330mm,
    • "http://www.kecegroup.com/kti/contsize.html",
    door size 2340mm
    • "http://www.searates.com/reference/equipment/2/",
    door size 2340mm
    • "http://www.searates.com/reference/equipment/3/"
    door size 2340mm
    • "http://www.mussonfreight.com/containers/containers.html",
    door size 92inch ~2318mm
    • "http://www.e-sailings.com/docm/ext03.pdf"
    door size 2343mm
    • "http://www.shipping-container-housing.com/shipping-container-standard-dimensions.html"
    door size 7'6" ~2.288m
     
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  3. jehardiman
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    Why not use an open frame ISO container. Then beam is limited to the maximum outside dimensions of 8' (2.55m) not the door.
     
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  5. Submarine Tom

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    Exactly, diagonally is the way to go and if it's inflatable...

    -Tom
     
  6. rwatson
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    Diagonally really isn't an option. I just wonder how come such a 'standard' item varies from 2.29 to 2.34. 50 mm's is too big a margin for an engineered product.

    I must check how easily the doors can be taken off.
     
  7. iceboater
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    The doors always open wider than the opening. On the containers I have measured the opening frame around the doors has different profiles with different measurements, but the inside of the container is closer to the same measurements. On the pictures is a boat that I shipped from USA but I could not get it in the container even it was supposed to be 2 cm narrower than the opening. But on the picture you can see how the door opens.

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  8. rwatson
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    Thanks for that IB. So its the framing around the end of the container that is the problem by the look of it.

    Did you manage to squeeze that boat in eventually ?

    I know 20ft containers have narrower entrances than 40ft, which I would need.
     
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    No, the boat ended on flat rack, open to all the elements and got damaged.
     
  10. rwatson
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    Thanks for that info.

    My boat design just got 20mm narrower !!!
     
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    :D:D:D
     
  12. Herman
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    Yes, keep a margin, both in width, but also in height and length.

    A friend of mine bought a 40 ft trimaran in the USA, and planned to ship it to NL in a container. According to the designer it should fit. Indeed it fitted, after taking the wheels off the trailer, and later also the axle. The doors closed. Well, almost. the boat was 3 cm (1-1/4") too long. But a chainsaw adjusted that....
     
  13. Billy Higgins
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    I work for a cargo and logistics company (Expeditors International) so you can take these numbers to the bank. While width is generally the problem shipping small boats, nevertheless addtional height is available with the "HiCube" container, exactly 12 inches taller.
    A 40 ft High Cube Dry Container has door openings of:
    width 2.340 m / 7 ft, 8 and 1/16 inches.
    heigth 2.579 m / 8 ft, 5 and 1/2 inches.
    The 40 ft moniker is for LOA - the inside length is 39 ft, 5 inches.
    You can arrange with your shipper to obtain the right size for your boat.
     
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    Thanks Billy - re-assuring
     

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