complete rebuild

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  1. lutesong2
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    I been wanting a new challenge an now I found I turned to remodel a old sail boat 1971 the lute song 2 the problem I stuck on I haven't tore off the deck yet probably give me better idea of how I need to do it how do I replace a wood deck on fiberglass sail boat I don't know in boat terms but on a house I would call them rafters what braces the deck how do I secure it to the fiberglass
     

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  2. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    Welcome to the forum.

    That looks to be an old Formosa or Hudson and given it's age, a first generation. This is a Chinese built boat and their techniques and methods weren't very good. It's a Garden design, so the shapes are sound and conservative, which will make for a good sea boat, just don't expect to win any races.

    What experience do you have with wood working in general and wooden boats in particular? A project by the looks of that one is massive and extensive, to but it bluntly. She looks to have had many alterations and modifications, most of which seem to be coming apart in some fashion.

    Do you have a budget and time line? I mention this because nothing about repairing and restoring yachts of this size is cheap, quick or easy.
     
  3. lutesong2
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    No it was built by John sears in England an I have been on the sister boat witch is almost Identical an very beautiful boat
     
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    An I got the money got time an I been working with wood all my life it's hobby never worked on a boat wood working
     
  5. markstrimaran
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    wood to glass

    Old fasioned bolts. Stainless steel. Or bronze
     
  6. lutesong2
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    old sail boat

    Do I go thru the hull
     
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    The flat head type slightly counter sunk. then faired over. they are not structeral. the wood deck as a whole and the internal frame work of cabnets and bulk heads. supports iti helped a guy a while back remove rotten deck strips. The planks touching the hull were botted with the nut counter sunk. a die ginder was handy. as the bolt/ fine theaded flat regular screw head fasteners were invisable until the fairing compound cracks. on the pretty side of the hull
     
  8. PAR
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    The logical route is to have comprehensive certified surveyor look her over, completely, as there's so many things you'll need to address on a build of that vintage. It would be helpful to know the make and model that John Sears built. I sure looks like a Garden's Formosa 51:

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    These hulls where built in a few different far eastern yards over the years and some may have been raw, finished out on the owner's whim.

    Considering the level of modification and hodge podged workmanship and obvious damage, I'm surprised you've elected to get into something like this, without a professional having a once over first.

    At the very least have it surveyed before you do anything else, so you know what you've got.
     
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    Sound advice PAR, there may be something terminal lurking elsewhere.
     
  10. Mikeemc
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    Is the sister boat the ' Magic ' nice boat well built.
     
  11. lutesong2
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    Not sure I'll ask mattey sears his dad the one that built it
     

  12. Michael Blennerhassett
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    lutesong2,
    I know these emails are years old now, but what happened to the project? I have a sister to Lute Song II - Cador of Cornwall - built by John Sears of Falmouth. I also have Alan Pape's plans for these boats - and the name on them is Lute Song II. I chanced to search LuteSong and here we are.
    I have nearly finished a complete rebuild on mine - fine boats, but I have learned a lot about their design weaknesses.
    Any chance you are still following this?
    Michael
    Ontario, Canada
     
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