Colin Archer double ender designs?

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by Mohan Pakkurti, Jan 24, 2005.

  1. Mohan Pakkurti
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    hi all!

    I am looking for designers or companies who are producing or working with designs by Colin Archer. I have found some excellent work by Tom MacNaughton and his work seems very true to the original designs and spirit of the Colin Archer design.

    Are there other designers who are doing similar work with the classic Colin Archer double-ender design? Making new designs or building them with modern techniques?

    Thanks for any tips.

    Mohan
     
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    Gina, Scharping is a top author and theoretical yachtscientist but don't put him forwards as a designer!
     
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    Hi, for an replica is a theoretical yachtscientist a good idea.
    The original design is over 100 years old. Gina
     
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    The Scharping boats may be good, but is it correct to call them Colin Archers? C.A. designed a lot of boats, racing and recreational boats as well. Now it seems like any heavy, full double ender is called a "Colin Archer". Jay Benford and Laurent Giles designed some nice double enders...

    Look at http://www.ssca.no/ and you will find many boats simmilar to Colin Archer's.

    Is this also a Colin Archer?
    http://www.vaagenbaat.no/?p=des&s=njord42

    What about Hans Christian?
    http://www.hanschristianyachts.com/
     
  7. D'ARTOIS
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    You are corect, Raggi, but the name of "Colin Archer" has been growing synonym in connection to double enders whoever the designer and whatever the origin. Even in Holland, that has it's own traditional designs the double ender states for seaworthiness and rugged traditional boats. Based on the traditional Anglo-saxon designs going back 1500 years and more.
    Colin Archer was definately not the inventor of the double ender, being the historical and traditional boatshape of the Scandinavians.

    I would like to emphasize that our member PAR has a very nice double ended design: LASS. Baron Van Hoevell, a well known Dutch designer from the pre-war era of yachting had an alomost identical design of LASS and the famous Dutch circumnavigator Hans Maurenbrecher sailed in this small boat (30 ft) from Holland via Indonesia - at that time still a Dutch colony - to Australia.

    In fact all the traditional double enders are being recognised as "Colin Archers" as much as Aspirin for a painkiller, or Ampex for videotape.
     
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    Scharping Colin Archer

    Hi d'ARTOIS,

    you say that Scharping is a theoretical man and not a designer. Does this apply in particular to his Colin Archer designs? and why? I always thought he is a top man in his business.
     
  9. makkebeer
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    Hi,

    The double ender is not only beautifull and safe by design - they can be fast.

    Some tend to glide easily to their maximum speed.
    When filming my parents boat under sail - we could not catch them.

    This one is designed and build in Holland:

    movie of Makke Beer sailing

    greetings from Holland
     
  10. robherc
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    I also found out (quite by accident) that it's very easy to design double-enders with an EXTREMELY high Cp!
    I drew up a D.E. cat hull with a creased centerline (bow, stern, and centerline below WL, that is) I'm designing on FreeShip the other day & found that I'd unintentionally designed it with a Cp of 0.67!
    The funniest thing (I think) about the whole scenario, was that I'd expected it to have a very LOW Cp, being double-ended...shows what I get for thinking. ;)
     
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    Yes, almost :) eric/ingrid is a little little modfied to suit the american market and reflect the time Atkin draw them it seems. (actually i was studying the atkin design for a long time, but favoured the original (Drawing number 108/09 from Colin Archer himself)
    Colin Archer got feedback during 1880-1900 from the rescueboat community and did a few modification based on this. These boats was designed and sailed without engine, along maybe some of the worst areas possible (northen part of norway in wintertime).

    zeyang
     

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    Try some of Buehler's stuff pretty nice double enders.

    Steve
     
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