Climate Change is a Complex Subject, Not Just a Political Football

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  1. troy2000
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    You didn't make a lot of sense there.

    Unlike most places, a significant part of the rainfall in Australia never makes it to the sea. It soaks in or evaporates. That's a fact, not some 'activists claim,' and I fail to see the politics in it.

    And while the article doesn't say how much ocean levels dropped, I seriously doubt that by 'a measurable amount' they meant 'a single one hundred thousandth of an inch worldwide.' That isn't really measurable.

    It's a news story, Gonzo, not a scientific paper. But If you disagree with it, I'd be pleased to have you post some actual facts and figures to back up your position....
     
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    Ocean Acidification Will Make Climate Change Worse | TIME

     
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    Had you actually read the full article <sigh> at the URL provided by Troy you would have found that:

    1) "But for an 18-month period beginning in 2010, the oceans mysteriously dropped by about 7 millimeters (about 0.3 inches), more than offsetting the annual rise."

    2) The News Release was published by:
    NCAR (National Center for Atmospheric Research)
    UCAR (University Center for Atmospheric Research)
    and
    "The study, with co-authors from NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory and the University of Colorado at Boulder, will be published next month in Geophysical Research Letters. It was funded by the National Science Foundation, which is NCAR’s sponsor, and by NASA."
     
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    Interesting photo Troy- why so white where the water was?

    Just deposits that haven't rinsed off the rocks I guess..?
     
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    I read about Lake Mead, but the picture worth a thousand world.
    This is quite an eye opener.
    I read about the beach erosion in Florida because of the raise of the Ocean. The pictures are also is quite amazing.
     
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    Yep, although those deposits may not just rinse off. They're more like the lime deposits in a coffee percolator that's been using hard water....

    Here's another picture. It gives a better idea of the current size of Lake Mead's 'bathtub ring,' as it's commonly called.
     

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    Water will be the new oil..countries will go to war over it..................
     
  8. Leo Lazauskas
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    They have in several areas.
    One notable example (among others) is Kashmir.
    The causes of conflicts in Kashmir have many facets, but water is in there too:
    Kashmir Water Dispute.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_conflict#Water_dispute
     
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    Years ago I read where in China and a lot of 3rd world countries, industrialization has polluted and destroyed human water sources to where clothes can hardly be washed in them. In some places the average person had to spend a third or more of their income on water just to drink and cook with.

    Way back in the early 80's all the states and provinces bordering the Great Lakes signed an agreement regulating the withdrawal of water, anticipating pipelines to the arid southwest USA.

    The Ogallala Aquifer is being rapidly depleted, which irrigates the breadbowl of the USA.

    Here in the southeast the Okeefonokee and Everglades aquifers are also being sucked dry with saltwater incursion as a result. Industries are wanting to pipeline and divert river flowage as limits are placed on them to deal with incursion.

    Our Reptilian Overlords think and plan way ahead of us. Water will be the new oil, and as agriculture is heavily dependent on oil for machinery and fertilizers, as petroleum dwindles and climate changes and shifts, so will food. Think Monsanto and Patents on food and plants, genetically engineered monoculture.

    And then there's the bees.
     
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    Aquifer depletion to irrigate farmland is a big issue world wide. Glacial melt is another problem. Glacial melt feeds farmland during the dry months.
     
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    a future flash point will be the Russia Chinese boarder along the Amur river. Russia has too much water, china has none
     
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    What if we named hurricanes after climate change deniers? | SOLON
     
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    Future flood losses in major coastal cities | NATURE CLIMATE CHANGE
     
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    Beach erosion in Florida is a result of storm tides, not ocean rise from so-called climate change. There is also peninsular subsidence occurring.

    http://beforeitsnews.com/strange/20...lorida-sinking-into-the-atlantic-2447632.html
    http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/...from-the-shift-of-tectonic?xg_source=activity

    Florida is being pulled east and also southwest due to the Caribbean Plate edge lifting at the Gulf, providing an alternate route. Thus, the Tampa Bay howl recently recorded, due to the vibration during competition. In Belarus and the Ukraine, likewise, there is competition, as a complex drama is playing out during the 7 of 10 scenarios. This stretch zone is pulling east, at somewhat of a diagonal toward the southeast as the Eurasian Plate border runs down along Turkey and beneath Iran. At the same time, because the African Plate will be dropping and pulling to the west as it does so, there is a tug in this direction. Thus, the vibrations in Homel and Kiev."
     
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