Classic boats: how to design the sail plan?

Discussion in 'Sailboats' started by Gades, Jul 29, 2002.

  1. Gades
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    Gades Senior Member

    Hi there,

    I've been reading a couple of issues of a magazine called Classic Boat. They've got lots of information about different boats, including the lines plans and many pictures. But, I haven't seen any information about their sail plans. I've read different design books, but they always talk about "normal" sail plans. Sometimes they mention the different types, but not how to design them.

    Anyone knows where to find this sort of information?

    Thanks
     
  2. ErikG
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    ErikG Senior Member

    Fernando

    Check some of the "older" litterature.
    I haven't check them per se about this but I'd guess there's plenty info in here:

    Skenes elements of yacht design.
    Yacht Designing and Planning: For Yachtsmen, Students, and Amateurs
    by Howard I. Chapelle.

    Some basic rig, sailplan stuff here: Understanding Boat Design by Ted Brewer

    Erik
     
  3. Gades
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    Gades Senior Member

    Thanks Eirk,
    I'll see which one I find at the shops. I just don't want to buy more books before I know they're the ones I should ;) (I think I might need to upgrade to a bigger book shelf soon :D )
     
  4. mmd
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    mmd Senior Member

    You may wish to look at John Leather's book "The Gaff Rig Handbook" subtitled "History - Design - Techniques - Developments". He discusses rigs, scantlings, arrangements, standing & running rigging for gaff sloops, cutters, schooners, yawls, ketches, and a mind-boggling amount of other stuff. A very good book. (WoodenBoat Books, Brooklin, Maine, USA www.woodenboat.com )
     
  5. Gades
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    Gades Senior Member

    Thanks mmd,

    yesterday I saw this book at Amazon, although it takes a couple of weeks to ship. At least here in the UK; I think it was 24 hours delivery in the States.

    So, in this book, the author does talk about the design of the rig itself. What shapes you choose, why, how they work and so on.
    If so, I guess that's what I'm looking for.

    thanks
     
  6. Polarity
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    Polarity Senior Member

    Hi Fernando

    If you want rig design information/scantlings etc I would try

    "The Complete Rigger's Apprentice: Tools and Techniques for Modern and Traditional Rigging " and /or "The Rigging Handbook" (2 of his books in one) both by Brion Toss
    both available at Amazon.co.uk

    website:
    http://www.briantoss.com

    I have one of these (can't remember which one) and an earlier one, he goes into great detail about rig design both modern and traditional.

    Cheers

    Paul
     

  7. Gades
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    Gades Senior Member

    Hi Paul,

    thanks for those two titles!

    I know how to calculate most of the loads in the sails; and how to design a "normal" (let's say the usual sloop yacht) sail plan. I've calculated all the tensions, comprensions, etc... in a 40 and 45 footer. Plus some of the loads in a 32 meters.

    But, I'd like to know how to design a nice looking boat, like a Classic one. That's why I was asking for the books; because usually you don't find this kind of information in most of the design books, nor in the magazines.

    Thanks
     
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