Chris White Atlantic 47, MastFoil

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  1. Corley
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    Cool boats no doubt but I think they suffer in a marketing sense from the perceived lack of saloon space. With the galley down though there was plenty of room and the inside helm made a nice place to stand watch at night. It was handy to walk straight out into the cockpit to check trim and the the mast base controls were easily accessible. The outside helm had good visibility for sailing and docking but I think a camera system that looked aft would be handy.
     
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    They are a serious cruiser's boat but they definitely come short in space and amenities when compared to the various French, South African etc. cats that are quite luxurious and make good charter boats for time share vacationers.
    I recently sailed a Neel 45 trimaran, a nice condo on the water, which retails for far less than a CW but there was no doubt in my mind when I decided to look into building a CW Tri.

    There's got to be at least one of us serious cruisers for every one hundred of the vacationers and a 1% market share in a growing market should be quite attractive to somebody. I recently retired and now I want to go cruising otherwise I just might have given it a go.
     
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    To be honest wing masts this size have caused grief in winds past 60. The concept is interesting but I'd look at a semisoft one that could be dropped leaving just the pole plus it would allow twist to work with the jib in all wind ranges. How big are the new ones?
     
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    The wing area on the Atlantic 47 is 165 sq ft per each mast, but I don't know the area of the mast itself.
    Not much when you consider that each of the jibs is 400 sq ft and the wing can be left to freely rotate I think.
    I see you point cavalier and I'd like a sail under bare poles in 40 kts before I make up my mind.
     
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    Does he even sell plans to home builders? I emailed him about 8 months ago and he told me his designs are meant to be built by pro builders.
     
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    How is "pro builder" defined there?
    In the US anybody who takes up a business license from their local City and states his business as "boat builder" pays a minimal fee and receives an official license with a Tax ID number. From zero to pro builder in one hour.

    Jorge, I would ask here: Searunner Multihulls - Home http://www.searunner.com/index.php

    where $4.400 gets you this: Searunner Multihulls - CC 44 Tri http://www.searunner.com/index.php/cc-44-tri


    John Marples is a down to earth guy who really knows Tris and is far more approachable than the various custom boutique designers. The only thing he might not be able to help you with is the CW MastFoil but so far there appears to be no conclusive verdict on its benefits nor do we know how extensive the patent and its protection is.
    And not to forget that there are many other interesting rigs that can be tailored to one's specific needs. I came to this after sailing an unstayed WillieCat and for all I know that is a better sail rig for my purposes than the MF.
     
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    Thanks for the links Jorge and no, I haven't looked into those.

    Since I sailed the WylieCat and got hooked on its unstayed cat rig I've talked to a number of designers about doing an unstayed rig trimaran ~45´ .
    There is no such boat to be sailed at this time and since I'm reluctant to be the trailblazer I'm doing the best I can to be cautious.
     
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    I hear you on that!! The only thing I have heard that cats suffer from, on Unstayed, is no foresail so poor upwind performance. I don't know if that applies to Tri's, they might behave more like monohulls. Good luck!
     
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    Several Newick's have unstayed rigs, a few are Damfino 28', White Wings 36', Pat's over 50'. Pat's is in Europe now and is owned by a member of Golden Oldies, they are a friendly bunch so I'd think a sail would be possible.
     
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