Cedar strip material

Discussion in 'Wooden Boat Building and Restoration' started by licensedtochill, Sep 8, 2023.

  1. licensedtochill
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    licensedtochill Junior Member

    Interested in building a small skiff and like the look of strip boats.
    Found these at hardware store and got to thinking.
    Epoxy resin glue planks together to form sheets and cut panels out. Stitch and glue as if it were plywood

    With fiberglass glass cloth on outside and epoxy resin coating on inside would this be suitable for my project?
     

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  2. seasquirt
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    seasquirt Senior Member

    No. It might work if you don't intend to have any bends; it will split down the grain through the knots. That is an advertising picture, so you can bet most planks available are more knotty, and knots in wood boats can be very bad. If it was any good, every boatie would be home building from rubbish 'decorative' planks. I laughed when I saw the picture, sorry, but it's a bad idea. I'm sure experts here will have helpful encouragement and improvements for your idea. Don't give up, just use better materials.
     
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  3. Blueknarr
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    Blueknarr Senior Member

    I fully endorse seasquart's response.
    Nautical knots should be in lines and never wood.
     
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    @licensedtochill , I built a large boat from strip plank composite construction. I have a detailed description of cutting planks in there.
     
  5. messabout
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    messabout Senior Member

    For a small strip built skiff, why not do it the well proven way? Use the strips over a suitable form. adhere the strips to one another with ordinary Titebond type adhesive. A gazillion small skiffs, canoes, and kayaks have been built this way.

    You can rip the cedar boards in such a way as to toss out the knotted parts. The best deal is to use a bead and cove router setup for the strips. However, if you are going to build a boat, any boat, there is no wisdom in compromising the materials that you will use. The labor for the build is much too important a consideration to ignore.

    If you want to build a good small skiff quickly and easily, then use good quality ply in a stitch and glue project.
     
  6. fallguy
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    fallguy Senior Member

    The t&g product you are referring to is flat sawn. It would tend to curl in a panel.

    The reason s&g works is the strips can conform to unique shapes, so putting the boards into a panel defeats the essence of using strips.
     

  7. seasquirt
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    seasquirt Senior Member

    I have used similar planks myself, after going through nearly a ton of it at the store, over a couple of deliveries, sorting the twisted from the knotty, and took the best personally selected lengths home. Clamped a circular saw upside down in a handyman's folding work vice, and sawed the 12mm planks into X 15mm strips, discarding all the knot affected pieces. Not used for planking as such, but used along the hull's deck line, and over deck thwarts to raise the gunnels and decks. The tongue and groove bits trimmed off the sides were epoxied together and used also, which was a waste of epoxy because the two shapes left a void to fill, and it sucked up heaps of epoxy uselessly; better to toss it. You may get away with those planks using that method, making good strips from cheap planks, and strip planking. Proper plywood and stitch and glue is much quicker to build, and probably lighter, meaning faster.
    If a total budget build, protective cover sheets from plywood deliveries can sometimes be bought cheap, repaired and tidied up, and then used if well sealed. But if you want a nice job, use good quality materials which will last, like real marine ply, then it's easier to do a job you can be proud of.
     
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