CE or EU Certification for boats?

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  1. S Hondros
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    I have been told to sell boats in the us to european countries specifically turkey we need a CE or EU certification. Does anyone know if this is correct and if so how one goes about getting these certification requirements? Thanks for the time everyone. Our boats are from 17 foot skiffs to 26 foot outboard v hull center consoles.
     
  2. Crag Cay
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    Compliance with the RCD is only required by boats being 'brought to market' within the EEA, which is the EU plus Iceland and Norway.

    As Turkey is not yet a member, I assume that a Certificate of Compliance is not needed at the present time. However it would be worth checking with these people what the full picture is: www.bms.com.tr/RCD.htm

    Don't be too daunted if you also want to export to a country actually in the EEA. Boats like yours would only have to comply with Cat C and the process is comparatively straightforward. However in Jan 06, there is a tightening of the requirements when the services of a 'Notified Body' will be required.

    The RYA in the UK (www,rya.org.uk) are one such body and their website is as good a place as any to start your research.
     
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    The CE program is administrated by "notified bodies". These include most of the classification societes, (i.e. ABS, RINA, and the others) as well as numerous independent organisations. One of the most commonly used in the US is the International Marine Certification Institute or IMCI. Their offices are in Brussels, but they have surveyors all over the US and Canada.

    They have a compliance seminar once a year that is worth attending if you've never done anything like this. Times and dates are probably on the website.

    The process is more tedious than complicated. You just need to follow the rules (ISO standards) and methodically cross your t's and dot your i's as you go through the paperwork.

    Here is a link:

    http://www.imci.org/languages/englishlanguage/index1.html
     
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    I got very good advice from IMCI's agent/consultant in Norway.
    They can help you with templates and methods for documentation and let you do much of the work, while for example DNV would like to do more of the work for you, at a very high price.
     
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    ceproof87 CE Boat Certification

    If you want to sell or recreate your boat in Eurppean Region then CE certification is the demanding process for legalization purpose which means that your boat meets all current International Organization for Standardization. http://www.ceproof.es/ will give you a complete information about this Certification.
     
  6. gonzo
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    I have done it. The process is relatively easy depending on the size of the boat. It is a self-certifying process, similar to UL.
     
  7. TANSL
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    Gonzo, do not know what you've done but, in my opiniom, the process of obtaining the CE marking is not easy and for boats from 6 to 24 m in length is the same, does not depend on the length.
     
  8. gonzo
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    That's exactly what I said. It depends on the size of the boat. If he is looking in the 6-24 range, it is relatively straightforward. There is a form with all the requirements. For example, inclination tests that may be done with weights.
     
  9. TANSL
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    No, Gonzo, things are not like that, in my opinion. There is not a form to fill, there are about 20 rules that must be met and can not be summarized in a single form.
    The inclining test, when performed in water, always is carried out with weights. There is no other way (in water), for what I know, to carry it out.
    Get the CE mark is a very laborious process. However, as you have already done, it would be interesting to know how you did it.
    Thanks for sharing your experience.
     
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    I did the paperwork for a series of 30' 12 passenger protected water use boats in the UK about five years ago. I got the forms with the step by step explanation and filled the blanks.
     
  11. TANSL
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    Gonzo, I would remember what theOP said: "...we need a CE or EU certification".
    What you say:

    I do not know what that is nor do I know how to get it. Assuming it is true that, whatever it is, you've done, my question is: does that have anything to do with OP´s question?.
    When ceproof87 says :

    Your answer is :

    Whatever it is that you have done, could you please explain the process ?.
    What is always needed is the project of the boat. Have you also made this project?
    Thank you.
    To help, I hope, the OP, I include a list of rules that each vessel wishing to obtain the CE mark must satisfy
     

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    gonzo Senior Member

    I told him it is like a UL certification. He is in the USA and should get it.
     
  13. TANSL
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    He may be in USA or wherever but what he says is: "... we need a CE or EU certification". To get it, he should not do something "like a UL certification", he has no choice but to do what the "CE" marking requires.
    I see that you do not know what that is. Trying to help you and, above all, to help the OP, attached the "DIRECTIVE-EU 2013-53"
     

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  14. Jeremy Harris
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    Jeremy Harris Senior Member

    Guys,

    This is a really old thread, re-invigorated by an advertiser that's just selling certification services.

    The OP started this 8 years ago and the thread was dormant until this spammer "ceproof87" came along with a link to his company!
     

  15. kerosene
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    Tansl, by "get it" Gonzo means that OP would know what UL refers to. Not that he needs to get said certification to obtain CE. Point being the process resembles the other.
     
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