CE Certification?

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  1. Carlazzomark
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    I will be building a pontoon boat and shipping it to Italy. Does anyone know about the CE Certification process? Can it be done in the States prior to shipping?
     
  2. rxcomposite
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    You must comply with the list as attached.
     

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    Not quite so simple.. thou smaller vessels can be self certificated by the manufacturer. With bigger boats you need much more. Complicated and costly process..
     
  4. TANSL
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    As far as I know, but I can be wrong, CE Certification applies to recreational craft, up to 24 m in length. So the big boats can not be certified with the CE mark.
    I think that indicated by rxcomposite is what must be taken into account.
     
  5. TeddyDiver
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    :D Smal is under 5.5m. Big btw 5.5 to 24m. Ships etc beyond that
    BR Teddy
     
  6. TANSL
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    Teddy, my friend, everything is relative. To me 24 m is a small ship. But we do not really talk about big or small ships, which is a very subjective concept, we need to know for what ships does CE mark apply, which, in my opinion, is only for pleasure boats or, if you want, for recreational "not commercial" ships.
    Cheers
     
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    Excactamente!
     
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    Exactamente
     
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    Mae culpa :D
     
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    daiquiri Engineering and Design

    How big (small) is the boat in question?
     
  13. capt vimes
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    The problem here is that every - by the meaning of the word every - piece of technical equipement from a stupid light bulb, the wiring and plumbing hoses down to the engine MUST have a bleeding CE sticker to it...
    If not, you have to replace it and apply again with all the costs included...
     
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    daiquiri Engineering and Design

    Since the boat is yet to be built, it is not such a big problem. Just make sure that all the installed components are CE marked, keep the relative documentation (for the Boat Owner's Manual and eventually for the surveyor's visit) and you'll be certification-ready.
     

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    My experience is limited only to CE certification built to ISO stamdard but looking at the hierarchy of my electronic library, it follows that CE certification can be had if the boat is built also to Recreational Craft Sectoral Group (RSG) standards. RSG list of documents is similar to ISO.

    Under the ISO Class and Flag documents, listed are BV and ABS rules. In the Bigger ship class are listed ABS, BV,LR, Danish Maritime Rules, IACS, IMO,IMO VEGA, MEPC resolutions.

    That means, small boats built to ISO or RSG standards (even BV standards) should have the following documents listed in the CE certification.

    Bigger boats built to other class standards should have no problem as more documents are available than what the checklist requires. So no matter what Class badge the boat wear, CE certification list the documents it needs to certify.

    What I find missing in the list is the "Stability Booklet". We had to make one and perform an inclining stability test (the ISO way. Turned out there are several ways of doing it, ISO way, the RSG method, ABS method, ect.) for the two boats we surveyed (one FRP, one Aluminum) for CE certification. The other set of documents listed came from the manufacturer.

    Came out to be a thick file of compilations of documents of which we submitted.
     
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